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LAHORE: Criticising the Bush administration’s reliance on President Pervez Musharraf’s role in the war on terror, United States presidential hopeful Barack Obama has vowed to go after Al Qaeda in Pakistan.
News One TV channel on Friday quoted him as saying in a CNN Democratic presidential debate in Austin, Texas, that the US had made a mistake by putting all its “eggs in the Musharraf basket”. He said the US should go after Al Qaeda and make sure that Pakistan was serious about hunting down terrorists and expanding democratic rule.
Promising that he would do everything to keep America safe if he were to become president, Obama said, “I will do whatever is required to accomplish that. I will not hesitate to act against those that would do America harm.”
I’m sure Obama will be a fine President – I voted for him, it looks like I’m going to vote for him again, and John McCain seems to be doing everything in his power to make ensure that I’ll have a lot of company. That said, he has said the two fucking stupidest things I’ve heard a candidate say all year – first, that he’d increase the size of the army/marines by 100,000 (a promise which, I must note, remains on his foreign policy short list, and still seems like a solution in search of a problem, one I’m afraid it will find); and second, that he’s totally committed to bombing the friendly nation of Pakistan. This go-around is certainly better than last time, when he and Hillary were getting into the grisly details of what particular ordnance they might use when attacking our allies, but it’s still pretty bellicose. Like, I get that this signals to the important soccer/NASCAR/whatever demographic that you aren’t some hippy peace fag and you’ll totally go Chuck Norris on any foreigners who look at you wrong, and I understand the rhetorical value of that. But the thing is, when you say ‘Pakistan’ – as opposed to ‘any country’, for example – it probably doesn’t go over the same way with people in, say, Pakistan. It sounds kind of hostile, I’d imagine, kind of provocative, particularly when coming from a country which has shown such an appetite for bombing the fuck out of countries in your region, with or without much reason. Full disclosure: if I knew for sure that Osama bin Laden was hanging out on your couch, I’d blow your whole fucking living room to hell without a second thought – Pakistan, Poughkeepsie, wherever. So wouldn’t anybody. But I sure wouldn’t keep talking about it out of the clear blue sky and expect you to be cool with it. This is why politicians don’t do hypotheticals (well, that, or because they’re full of shit.)
Maybe not the biggest deal in the world, maybe, but pointlessly stupid. And if you intend to coexist peacefully with very large nuclear nations, this sort of rhetoric is counterproductive in the long run. Unless you’re working on a fiendishly cunning can’t-possibly-fail plan of waging a 10,000-year-long land war in Asia, of course, in which case: mission accomplished.
February 23, 2008 at 4:20 am
Man, I don’t know why you haven’t yet figured out what most in the left blogosphere have known for years now, that OBL and AQ are just CIA fronts for black-ops.
You remind me of Crooks and Liars, they don’t get it either.
The corporate big pigs are working with the Jewish Zionists and have only one agenda — conquering the ME and making it another part of their vast empire, and they don’t give a rat’s ass about all the poor fools and dupes that have to die for it.
Even if OBL and AG were still a legitmate terrorist group, they’d be working against the corproate imperial zionist fascists, and in that respect, should be considered just another part of the resistance.
Maybe they were at one time, but the imperial zionists have taken control of the propaganda machine and they have assimiliated AQ into their fascist machine, to work for them with false-flags and black ops, to further there own fascist agenda.
Furthermore, you may have known what poverty was at one time, but I don’t think you know anymore. It’s the hopeless pits!
February 23, 2008 at 7:15 am
World opinion was completely on the side of the U.S. in invading Afghanistan and routing the Taliban for its role in supporting Al Qaeda. One of the principal critiques by liberals of Bush and the Republicans is that they squandered that support by prosecuting the Iraq war instead of capturing or killing Bin Laden and destroying the capacity of Al Qaeda. Further, we (think we) know Bin Laden is in Pakistan, and have for some time, but have taken no visible action because Musharraf warned that any action by the U.S. would have dire consequences. Now, Musharraf is close to losing power altogether and his other prediction – that only he could be a bulwark against the Islamist parties – looks to be a lie.
If President Obama (or President Clinton) were to assume office and continue Bush’s hands-off policy toward Pakistan, the public would turn on him (or her) as surely as they’ve turned on the Democratic Congress.
February 23, 2008 at 11:44 am
Oh noes! Nick Z. has discovered our evil plan to use our mind control beams combined with subliminal messages printed on birthday cards to control the world’s money and place a born-again Christian in the White House in order to destroy the Twin Towers by himself while *blargleblargezootcoughsnorthakkkkhhhhh* and that’s why the CIA is run by Israel’s Likud Party! I heard it on the Internet!
February 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Hey, I heard it on the internet, too! That means the story has been confirmed!11!!logfourpi!!1!
February 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm
aw man I wanna go to a lickit party, why do the Cia get all the good stuff.
February 23, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Of course all we have to do to make the savages stop, is crucify a few hundred of them.
However, the Editors already suggested that one, years ago now, in one of their best posts ever!
Ahhhh the good old days… before every last comment had to be searched for Anti-Obama tendencies.
February 23, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Through the looking glass. Wtf is going on here?
February 24, 2008 at 5:17 am
You don’t have to hear something on the internet to know its true, you just have to have the brains to figure it out, which is more than I can say for the fools at this blog!
Tell me something, you bunch of brainiancs. Would the US Empire have been capable of getting the support it needed to invade Iraq without 9/11?
The answer to that question is “NO!” so it follows perfectly that 9/11 was all too great an opportunity for the Bushites to do exactly what they wanted to do, and now we are under the stench of it and there’s no escape.
You don’t think the Right-wing fascists and zionists could plan something like this? If so, you need to get your heads out of your asses and kiss reality, with all of its US police-state fascists stench!
June 4, 2008 at 5:53 pm
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