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		<title>By: Break it up! &#171; The Poor Man Institute</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-11905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Break it up! &#171; The Poor Man Institute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 19, 2008 Break it&#160;up! Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized &#160;  Six months ago, I compared the nation&#8217;s financial crisis to the K-T extinction event which caused the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 19, 2008 Break it&nbsp;up! Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized &nbsp;  Six months ago, I compared the nation&#8217;s financial crisis to the K-T extinction event which caused the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlogBites. Like sound bites. But without the sound. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There are a lot of downsides here, obviously, but the silver lining is that being an unemployed alcoholic may lose its social stigma and put you in the vanguard of an excitin</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlogBites. Like sound bites. But without the sound. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There are a lot of downsides here, obviously, but the silver lining is that being an unemployed alcoholic may lose its social stigma and put you in the vanguard of an excitin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] knees and straighten our paper trainee hats. And would you like some fries with your hummer, sir? fuckedcountry.com « Liberal Fascism &#160;    &#171; Satanitude noun. A quality found in, and admired by, politicians and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] knees and straighten our paper trainee hats. And would you like some fries with your hummer, sir? fuckedcountry.com « Liberal Fascism &nbsp;    &laquo; Satanitude noun. A quality found in, and admired by, politicians and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: secondharmonic</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3238</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, the actual quote is:
&quot;I was napping poolside at the Gulf War Swimdrome, when....&quot;
Sorry. That is all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, the actual quote is:<br />
&#8220;I was napping poolside at the Gulf War Swimdrome, when&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
Sorry. That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew A. Gill, SLS</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew A. Gill, SLS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s entirely irrelevant whether you consider this “free market” or “Wealthy-oriented market” or what have you. It is, inarguably, a deregulated one (something Libertarians were fond of not two months ago).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are certainly people who call themselves Libertarians who believe that all deregulation is equal.

There are other Libertarians who were appalled by what Steinbeck wrote about in The Grapes of Wrath.  And get palpitations when they think about the Jeffersonian ideal of yeoman farmers.

It&#039;s a major rift in the Libertarian Party, and one that frankly, the anti-corporates are losing.  The transhumanist, racist, and warmongering Glenn Reynolds wing is proceeding like a juggernaut, chewing up the old remnants of the party.

When I joined the Libertarian Party, I got a membership card.  Above the signature line read the following words, ``&lt;b&gt;I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force or fraud as a means of achieving political or social goals&lt;/b&gt;.&#039;&#039;

The so-called Libertarians that supported the Iraq war make a mockery of this declaration.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But I’m assuming you hold that The Man kept them down through taxation or something.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, the new robber barons did that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s entirely irrelevant whether you consider this “free market” or “Wealthy-oriented market” or what have you. It is, inarguably, a deregulated one (something Libertarians were fond of not two months ago).</p></blockquote>
<p>There are certainly people who call themselves Libertarians who believe that all deregulation is equal.</p>
<p>There are other Libertarians who were appalled by what Steinbeck wrote about in The Grapes of Wrath.  And get palpitations when they think about the Jeffersonian ideal of yeoman farmers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a major rift in the Libertarian Party, and one that frankly, the anti-corporates are losing.  The transhumanist, racist, and warmongering Glenn Reynolds wing is proceeding like a juggernaut, chewing up the old remnants of the party.</p>
<p>When I joined the Libertarian Party, I got a membership card.  Above the signature line read the following words, &#8220;<b>I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force or fraud as a means of achieving political or social goals</b>.&#8221;</p>
<p>The so-called Libertarians that supported the Iraq war make a mockery of this declaration.</p>
<blockquote><p>But I’m assuming you hold that The Man kept them down through taxation or something.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, the new robber barons did that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay B.</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Point the second, what we are seeing is not the free market. It’s a system where people have one set of rights and responsibilities, and corporations have the same set of rights, but none of those responsibilities. And also corporate welfare tends to go to those who need it least.&lt;/i&gt;

While I keed about the Clipper Chip (but not to its face) -- I fear this is where the Libertarian argument becomes nothing more than the Marxism-hasn&#039;t-failed argument. It&#039;s academic. A moot point dreamed on by dreamers and wished for by wishers.

It&#039;s entirely irrelevant whether you consider this &quot;free market&quot; or &quot;Wealthy-oriented market&quot; or what have you. It is, inarguably, a deregulated one (something Libertarians were fond of not two months ago). And it is a failed one. Because the banks, hedge funds, lenders, Masters of the Universe and hucksters went out and bet the farm &lt;i&gt;because there was no one to reign them in&lt;/i&gt; -- they played the market and upon collapse the LAST thing standing between them and the abyss is a desperate Government bailout. 

Corporate welfare? Sure. But last ditch and a situation crafted by rampant market speculation, bad faith and greed -- Libertarian to the core. Only here can we see the frailty of the market. Self-correction would cause economic catastrophe. There&#039;s no invisible hands left. That&#039;s the dead end of libertarian reality.

But I&#039;m assuming you hold that The Man kept them down through taxation or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Point the second, what we are seeing is not the free market. It’s a system where people have one set of rights and responsibilities, and corporations have the same set of rights, but none of those responsibilities. And also corporate welfare tends to go to those who need it least.</i></p>
<p>While I keed about the Clipper Chip (but not to its face) &#8212; I fear this is where the Libertarian argument becomes nothing more than the Marxism-hasn&#8217;t-failed argument. It&#8217;s academic. A moot point dreamed on by dreamers and wished for by wishers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s entirely irrelevant whether you consider this &#8220;free market&#8221; or &#8220;Wealthy-oriented market&#8221; or what have you. It is, inarguably, a deregulated one (something Libertarians were fond of not two months ago). And it is a failed one. Because the banks, hedge funds, lenders, Masters of the Universe and hucksters went out and bet the farm <i>because there was no one to reign them in</i> &#8212; they played the market and upon collapse the LAST thing standing between them and the abyss is a desperate Government bailout. </p>
<p>Corporate welfare? Sure. But last ditch and a situation crafted by rampant market speculation, bad faith and greed &#8212; Libertarian to the core. Only here can we see the frailty of the market. Self-correction would cause economic catastrophe. There&#8217;s no invisible hands left. That&#8217;s the dead end of libertarian reality.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m assuming you hold that The Man kept them down through taxation or something.</p>
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		<title>By: EdsAppliance</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EdsAppliance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, aliens and sedition abound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, aliens and sedition abound.</p>
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		<title>By: Hani Bar-ranek</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hani Bar-ranek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello. I exult at the prospect of despondent speculators zooming out of lofty towers down toward the pavement spread-eagled in waxy catatonia like realistic life-sized rubber dolls with vacuum-action vaginas which you produce to exacting standards for upscale export markets in my desert home, and which are quite realistic, I am told, and certainly remarkably durable, resistant to constant pounding as well as furious rubbing and scraping, except that the limbs have a tendency to loosen over time - however, your painstaking craftsmanship and ingenuity avail you nothing, for Islamic finance and sovereign petro-euros have vanquished you. I shall enter your country imperiously, without cavity searches, and your women shall fellate me for princely sums. I shall buy up your neighbors&#039; homes and paint them garish hues and erect marvelous edifices or graze racing camels in violation of your protective covenants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I exult at the prospect of despondent speculators zooming out of lofty towers down toward the pavement spread-eagled in waxy catatonia like realistic life-sized rubber dolls with vacuum-action vaginas which you produce to exacting standards for upscale export markets in my desert home, and which are quite realistic, I am told, and certainly remarkably durable, resistant to constant pounding as well as furious rubbing and scraping, except that the limbs have a tendency to loosen over time &#8211; however, your painstaking craftsmanship and ingenuity avail you nothing, for Islamic finance and sovereign petro-euros have vanquished you. I shall enter your country imperiously, without cavity searches, and your women shall fellate me for princely sums. I shall buy up your neighbors&#8217; homes and paint them garish hues and erect marvelous edifices or graze racing camels in violation of your protective covenants.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew A. Gill, SLS</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew A. Gill, SLS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I know people have horrible memories of the Clinton years with all that shitty peace and prosperity we had, but I’m happy you anarchist libertarians still hope to offer it as a teaching moment about When It All Went Wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK.  Point the first, Bush Jr. is aleph null times worse than Clinton.  Torture, unjust war, enormous civil liberties violations, corporate welfare, financial malfeasance, I could go on.  Name just about anything that Libertarians hate, Bush Jr. has done it.

Point the second, what we are seeing is not the free market.  It&#039;s a system where people have one set of rights and responsibilities, and corporations have the same set of rights, but none of those responsibilities.  And also corporate welfare tends to go to those who need it least.

Point the third, I can&#039;t pinpoint the precise moment When It All Went Wrong, but it goes back at least to the presidency of John Adams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know people have horrible memories of the Clinton years with all that shitty peace and prosperity we had, but I’m happy you anarchist libertarians still hope to offer it as a teaching moment about When It All Went Wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK.  Point the first, Bush Jr. is aleph null times worse than Clinton.  Torture, unjust war, enormous civil liberties violations, corporate welfare, financial malfeasance, I could go on.  Name just about anything that Libertarians hate, Bush Jr. has done it.</p>
<p>Point the second, what we are seeing is not the free market.  It&#8217;s a system where people have one set of rights and responsibilities, and corporations have the same set of rights, but none of those responsibilities.  And also corporate welfare tends to go to those who need it least.</p>
<p>Point the third, I can&#8217;t pinpoint the precise moment When It All Went Wrong, but it goes back at least to the presidency of John Adams.</p>
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		<title>By: wjb</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3160</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I still have some cash, I should really invest in something that&#039;s recession-proof, like real esta--

Ah, shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I still have some cash, I should really invest in something that&#8217;s recession-proof, like real esta&#8211;</p>
<p>Ah, shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/03/17/fuckedcountrycom/#comment-3159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herr Doktor Bimler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to correct Jennifer, but the coming downturn / recession / D-word
(a) could not possibly have been foreseen by anyone;
AND (b) is the fault of those doom-laden alarmist statements about &quot;systemic weakness&quot; emanating from the Left, giving rise to market nervousness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to correct Jennifer, but the coming downturn / recession / D-word<br />
(a) could not possibly have been foreseen by anyone;<br />
AND (b) is the fault of those doom-laden alarmist statements about &#8220;systemic weakness&#8221; emanating from the Left, giving rise to market nervousness.</p>
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