News pundants [sic] have elevated McCain to “the most popular national political figure in the country” by repeatedly describing him as a “war hero” based on his refusal accept a communist offer of “early release” from captivity.
What the media has carelessly refused to acknowledge is that the camp’s senior ranking U.S. POW (SRO) had issued unquestionable orders that if a POW was to be released, “it would be the longest held prisoner” Because McCain was not the longest held POW, he would have faced a military court-marshal if he had accepted the offer.
It is incumbent upon McCain to prove to the American people that the 5 1/2 years he spent at the mercy of communist interrogators did not leave him with mental health issues that could hinder him in making snap decisions “if the White House phone rang at 3 a.m.”
Is McCain taking any kind of pain or “nerve” medicines? If so, do the medicines cause emotional and physical reactions?
McCain was once treated for Posttraumatic [sic] Stress Disorder (PTSD) which is said to get worse over time for former POWs, what is the status of his treatment?
Does McCain still harbor stress triggered suicidal tendencies?
Where was McCain and what was happening to him during the months he was missing from the POW camp?
McCain implies that he made only one propaganda broadcast for the communists, but Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffers say he made over 30. How many did he make and what did he get in return?
Why does McCain still deny that the Soviets were involved in the interrogation of U.S. POWs in Vietnam?
Does McCain’s former interrogators [sic], the communist Vietnamese, Russians, Chinese and Cubans have anything in their secret intelligence files about his behavior as a prisoner with which they could blackmail a President John McCain?
Were the Pyramids piloted by Ancient Astronauts? If I learned anything from the 2004 campaign, it’s that people like Ted Sampley are very serious and deserve to have their charges repeated over and over and over and over and over and over in all media outlets, and that the number of people who dispute their charges on-air cannot exceed the number of people who sit there like stuffed frogs before pronouncing that the allegations constitute a “controversy” and “are troubling, if true.” Mission accomplished.
March 29, 2008 at 2:43 pm
The McChurian Candidate?
(Actually there are a coupla queries in that list that I didn’t know about.)
I think we should go wide with this. And by “we”, I mean you.
DO IT.
March 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm
McCain implies that he made only one propaganda broadcast for the communists, but Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffers say he made over 30.
I hope somebody is trying to get their hands on one of these.
March 29, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I hate this crap. These people should be pelted with vegetables if they come out in public.
March 29, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I think the red queen is a bit much.
On the other hand, I do have a strange affinity for Heinz 57 ketchup now.
March 29, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Yes indeed. These questions need to be asked over and over and over.
March 29, 2008 at 5:47 pm
After what happened to John Kerry, it would be hypocritical for the liberal media to repeat the slanderous but strangely persistent rumors that the foreign-born McCain was carrying a secret offer to surrender when he flew to Saigon and faked being shot down.
March 29, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Were the Pyramids piloted by Ancient Astronauts?
That’s a silly question, I thought everybody knew the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids for the dual purposes of sharpening razor blades and attracting tourism.
And if Hollywood is anything to go by, they were extremely beneficial in aiding the comfortable removal of those tricky hairs from behind the knees. They’ve also had quite a few visitors over the millenia.
March 29, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I’m pretty sure McCain is not foreign born.
March 29, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Mr. Gill:
You are pretty wrong. McCain was born in Panama, in the Canal Zone, on territory that was only leased from the Republic of Panama. McCain was, unequivocally, NOT born on sovereign US soil.
March 29, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Andrew,
McCain was not born in one of the 50 US states. He was born in Central America, look it up.
March 29, 2008 at 9:23 pm
I think Admiral James Stockdale was the only national candidate whose background was similar to McCain’s. After a lifetime of distinguished service, he was imprinted on the American mind as the bumbling old guy who said, “Who am I? Why am I here?”
It’s not like the media find this process difficult. Targets are chosen, and they march.
March 29, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Who can tell where the truth lies? Are we to attempt to silence the McCain whistleblowers, particularly when some of them are honored veterans of the same war? Surely it would be irresponsible to participate in a cover-up of what could, sadly, turn out to be very disturbing developments.
For the sake of argument, if in fact McCain did give away so many secrets on US troop movements and tactics to his friends the Vietcong that the US lost the war – and I’m not suggesting that’s the case, let’s be clear – but if he did I’m sure many would find that a stunning fact quite revealing.
March 29, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Serious people like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter should bring this to our nation’s attention like Woodward and Bernstein.
March 29, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Erich Von Daniken is on my sofa, bawling Crying his eyes out. What did you say to him?
Habe ich mich geirrt?
March 29, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Did we get the spheroids back from the lab?
March 29, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Which one of Carmello Anthony’s tat’s was responsible for the conditions outlined in The Kerner Report, (see Bill Moyers Journal on PBS this week) again?
March 30, 2008 at 6:24 am
Just in Case
How to swift boat McCain.
(originally posted in my own journal)
*cue the actor with the stentorian voice)
John McCain has done good service to his country.
That cannot be disputed.
But there are important things to consider.
For example, what do we know about the long term effects of torture and captivity (insert power point-like report here).
We know, for example that he is subject to rages and extreme emotional outbursts (statements from members of his own party) . That his political actions have shown themselves to be of (to say the least) questionable merit (“Keating Five”) headlines. That he has had at least one divorce in his life, and has show very little loyalty to his current family (GQ interview excerpt).
And that he seems to lack public discretion (“bomb Iran” filk).
Yes, we do not discredit his service to his country. However, we must decide if his hand is the one we want guiding the ship of state.”
Thank you for your time.
March 30, 2008 at 7:16 am
Serious people like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter should bring this to our nation’s attention like Woodward and Bernstein.
Peggy Noonan, too. It would be irresponsible not to.
March 30, 2008 at 8:57 am
I never ‘actually’ fought in ‘Nam. But I’ve certainly seen enough ‘Nam flicks to qualify for ‘veterans’ status. Done.
With that pesky detail satisfied, I hereby announce the creation of the Liberal Fascist Veterans for Truth Emergency Action Committee. The FVTEAC (kinda rolls off the tongue, don’t it?) is dedicated to bringing both sides of this issue front and center for the American public, and letting them decide which set of distortions and half-truths is more ‘factual’.
Swiftboating? Hah! Slow-boating (to China). <>
March 30, 2008 at 10:44 am
shelleybear–
Ex-cellent. But pls. add something along the lines of, “He presents himself as a man of principle.” (insert clip of McC saying X.) “But he repeatedly reverses himself on that supposed principle.” (clip of McC praising Falwell, hugging Bush, etc.)
“We all change our minds from time to time. But could these extreme shifts in Senator McCain’s positions–ones so supposedly fundamental to his outlook–be more than that? What, exactly, do we know about the long-term blah blah with regard to ‘volatility of viewpoint’ or ‘inconsistency of cathexis’ as a possible result of post-traumatic blah?”
“It would be irresponsible NOT to speculate.”
March 30, 2008 at 11:22 am
I would LOVE to seem someone with the sort of stage presence necessary to put this over to the general public do so on youtube.
Perhaps it would go viral.
To me, the most important aspect of the whole production in the need for absolute truth.
It must NOT be refutable in any way, shape or form.
March 30, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I’m just asking the tough questions here.
Yes. That might be a problem.
March 30, 2008 at 2:42 pm
ch2 Says:
March 29, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Andrew,
McCain was not born in one of the 50 US states. He was born in Central America, look it up.
ch2,
The portion of Central America in which McCain was born was American soil.
(otherwise, he would not have been eligible to be president)
March 30, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Who’s the chick in the hat?
yeah, and what gives with the band aid?
March 30, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Dear Andrew,
“ch2,
The portion of Central America in which McCain was born was American soil.”
So YOU say.
You can call an American military base “American soil” all you want. It’s foreign minerals and bacteria to me.
“(otherwise, he would not have been eligible to be president)”
That is exactly what I’m suggesting.
Nativistically (and sarcastically) yours,
ch2.
March 30, 2008 at 7:50 pm
(otherwise, he would not have been eligible to be president)
Er, children of US citizens are natural-born US citizens, regardless of where they were born. The bit in the Constitution rules out naturalized citizens from becoming President. McCain is in, the Ahnold is out.
Wait, was this just more of the FUD we’re trying to spread. Whoops. “John McCain, born to a native woman in Central America, thinks the Constitution doesn’t apply to him…”
March 30, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Well, anyway, isn’t Panama famous for brainwashing infants into Secret Islam? I’m sure I read that in a mass email.
March 30, 2008 at 9:05 pm
In a world…where nothing is as it seems
Comes a man…with a mysterious past
Woman: But he was tortured!
Man: Where is Vietnam again?
I think I saw him slap a baby.
10..9..8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1
*boom*
Obama voice-over: I MIGHT get you suckas, but there’s a guy who doesn’t play NICE like me.
Woman: Who could be more scary then a bla..
Man: John McCain slaps babies.
Woman: Babies?
Man: Premmie’s
Woman: What the fuck is wrong with him?
Man: I dunno, he came back from The ‘Nam, different.
Woman: Different how?
Man: He SLAPS babies. I think I once saw him pick up the tinest baby out of the biggest incubator I’ve ever seen, and kind of thump her little feet with his fore-finger and thumb, you know, the *flick*, but like too hard for a baby.
Woman: Well, that changes everything.
*Scene*
March 30, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Todd,
I love it.
It feels gutterific ! Slimedy slime Mc Slime. As the NYT says, all the slime that’s fit to sling.
March 30, 2008 at 10:31 pm
That’s why I’m the pro.
March 30, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Er, children of US citizens are natural-born US citizens, regardless of where they were born. The bit in the Constitution rules out naturalized citizens from becoming President. McCain is in, the Ahnold is out.
All right. Fair enough. I never paid too much attention to that bit because I’m already a native-born citizen and there’s no way in Hell I could convince anyone to vote for me as president, anyway.
March 30, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Second Rollout – WI,Mich,Industrial midwest
“Toddler Gobbler of Nangbao”
Phuc Pham: I was John McCain’s guard when he was a POW in ‘Nam. On over thirty occasions I brought babies for McCain so he could feed upon them in exchange for live-air propaganda statements.
Woman: You said he slaps babies!
Man: Only so he can find the most tender babies to devour, it was Panama..
Woman: Nooooo!
10…9…8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1
BOOM
Do you want John McCain to drink your babe’s senuvial fluid?
Stay Pro-Baby, vote against the “Toddler Gobbler of Nangbao”,
Woman: He only looks like a baby so he can blend in…
dunh-dah!
March 31, 2008 at 2:57 am
“The FVTEAC (kinda rolls off the tongue, don’t it?)”
I’m drunk. I tried it. It doesn’t necessarily roll, but it does kinda gather in a globule and roll toward drooldom.
March 31, 2008 at 2:59 am
Oh, I said it does roll, didn’t I? I said I was drunk too, yes?
I blame PTSD: Pre-Traumatically Stinking Drunk
March 31, 2008 at 3:00 am
“Well, anyway, isn’t Panama famous for brainwashing infants into Secret Islam? I’m sure I read that in a mass email.”
Baptized, not brain-washed. Only Jeebus can wash brains.
March 31, 2008 at 3:02 am
“Does McCain still harbor stress triggered suicidal tendencies?”
Only when he ponders what debating Obama goin’ be like.
March 31, 2008 at 5:01 am
He did kind of set his own carrier on fire. He was the NVA’s best pilot.
March 31, 2008 at 7:48 am
“I’ve flown four hundred and eighty combat missions. Crashed every time. Come to think of it, I’ve never landed a plane in my life.”
– decorated US Navy aviator and presidential candidate Admiral “Tug” Benson
“My ear canals are stainless steel. Took a bazooka round at Iwo Jima. Well, it was either Iwo Jima or Little Big Horn. The one with the Indians, anyway.”
– ibid.
March 31, 2008 at 8:33 am
Insane McCain was born “south of the border”; which explains his fluent Spanish and his immigration policies.
Pass it on
March 31, 2008 at 9:50 am
Todd 32: He only looks like a baby so he can blend in…
I’m sitting here at my desk at work, failing to suppress giggles like a serial killer.
March 31, 2008 at 9:51 am
Argh! Z-movie serial killer, I meant to say.
March 31, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Let’s just have Cypress Hill do a re-recording:
McCain in the membrane
McCain in the brain…
March 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Eds. – I don’t get the Red Queen reference. Isn’t that a evolutionary biology/lewis carroll reference? I’m feeling dense.
I know, I know – if you have to explain the joke…jadajada. But still, I only get 30% of your references, but this one is bothering me…
March 31, 2008 at 12:43 pm
It’s supposed to be a Manchurian Candidate (1962) reference. Unless I botched it.
March 31, 2008 at 3:27 pm
A men with a haircut and muttonchops and mustache of might like Theed can NOT botch it.
March 31, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Isn’t there some way to segue Prince and Purple Rain into this folderol?
March 31, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Dear The Editors:
It is *so* not botched.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/superluser/queen_of_diamonds-angela_lansbury-s.jpg
(spoilers)
Just over the top.
March 31, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Also, while I’m here…
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/superluser/57communists.jpg
McCain’s mother is dead…right? For her sake, I hope…
March 31, 2008 at 10:20 pm
I won.
March 31, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Er, children of US citizens are natural-born US citizens, regardless of where they were born. The bit in the Constitution rules out naturalized citizens from becoming President. McCain is in, the Ahnold is out.
Eh, this is not at all clear.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20041008.html
April 1, 2008 at 7:25 am
I never paid too much attention to that bit because I’m already a native-born citizen and there’s no way in Hell I could convince anyone to vote for me as president, anyway.
Andrew A. Gill, SLS, for President!
Eh, this is not at all clear.
From a little further in the Dean article:
Look, if it’s sufficiently ambiguous, then it can be interpreted in the most reasonable sense. Children whose parents are US citizens are automatically US citizens. Yes, there’s a convoluted argument involving whether jus sanguinis (right of blood) has the same status as jus soli (right of the soil). Is one’s automatic citizenship from having citizen parents an immediate “naturalization,” or does it count the same as being born here? Though the statutes on jus sanguinis (including explicit clauses about the Panama Canal Zone) apparently don’t spell it out sufficiently, I think the fact that there doesn’t have to be any specific “act” to grant the citizenship means it should count as “natural-born.” YMMV. IANAL. TGIF.
On the other hand, since this is the candidate of a party with members that want to eliminate the Fourteenth Amendment’s birthright citizenship using ordinary legislation, forget all the above and have at him.
April 1, 2008 at 7:36 am
Andrew A. Gill, SLS, for President!
Unfortunately, I’d have to give up my title of nobility. And I’m not giving up my honorary title of Screaming Lord Sutch of The Poor Man Institute for Freedom, Democracy and a Pony, which I conferred upon myself.
April 1, 2008 at 8:24 am
Considering how the 12th Amendment’s requirements regarding state citizenship and electors were tossed in the trash in the 2000 election, I don’t see how McCain will have any serious problems with “natural born” status.
And yes, that was the FIRST of many, many, constitutional violations by Bush/Cheney.
Oh, to add to your list: Goldwater 1964. He was born in AZ before it was a state.
April 1, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Oh, to add to your list: Goldwater 1964. He was born in AZ before it was a state.
All of the presidents before Martin van Buren were born prior to 1776, therefore none of them were born in the United States either.
But the original 13 colonies and Arizona became states, whereas the Canal Zone reverted back to being Panamanian soil. Therefore, by the echoing emanations and reverberating penumbrae of Time, MC Cain wasn’t born on U.S. territory.
There may even be truth to the rumors that he was fathered by Manolo the retarded houseboy while the Admiral was away inspecting the fleet. At least that’s what he told Mrs. McCain.
“In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease…”
April 9, 2008 at 2:15 pm
[...] sure there’s a perfectly reasonable explanation for this. Like how it was Mao’s Little Red Book and the film of Jane Fonda that helped John stay strong through 5½ years of special treatment in Vietnam. Or how he [...]
June 13, 2008 at 2:39 pm
All of the presidents before Martin van Buren were born prior to 1776, therefore none of them were born in the United States either.
Article II says: No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President…
McCain is old, but he’s not that old.