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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s things like this that turn sane people vegetarian</title>
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		<title>By: grandlaff</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grandlaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I personally don&#039;t crave meat or even meat substitutes, but otherwise, this guy pretty much nails everything:

http://www.slate.com/id/2190872/

excerpt: &quot;I&#039;ve been vegetarian for a decade, and when it comes up, I still get a look of confused horror that says, &quot;But you seemed so … normal.&quot; The U.S. boasts more than 10 million herbivores today, yet most Americans assume that every last one is a loopy, self-satisfied health fanatic, hellbent on draining all the joy out of life. Those of us who want to avoid the social nightmare have to hide our vegetarianism like an Oxycontin addiction, because admit it, omnivores: You know nothing about us. Do we eat fish? Will we panic if confronted with a hamburger? Are we dying of malnutrition? You have no clue. So read on, my flesh-eating friends—I believe it&#039;s high time we cleared a few things up.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#8217;t crave meat or even meat substitutes, but otherwise, this guy pretty much nails everything:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2190872/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2190872/</a></p>
<p>excerpt: &#8220;I&#8217;ve been vegetarian for a decade, and when it comes up, I still get a look of confused horror that says, &#8220;But you seemed so … normal.&#8221; The U.S. boasts more than 10 million herbivores today, yet most Americans assume that every last one is a loopy, self-satisfied health fanatic, hellbent on draining all the joy out of life. Those of us who want to avoid the social nightmare have to hide our vegetarianism like an Oxycontin addiction, because admit it, omnivores: You know nothing about us. Do we eat fish? Will we panic if confronted with a hamburger? Are we dying of malnutrition? You have no clue. So read on, my flesh-eating friends—I believe it&#8217;s high time we cleared a few things up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Government Food Subsidies &#171; Beware The Man</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Government Food Subsidies &#171; Beware The Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Why are fruit and vegetables more expensive, relatively, than meat? The Poor Man explains. Not only educational, but funny, too! [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: grandlaff</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grandlaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Sirened:

The term you&#039;re looking for is &quot;carnivore,&quot; and I&#039;ve already heard every veggie-bashing joke there is.  But don&#039;t worry, I don&#039;t take myself too seriously, and I&#039;ve made plenty of plant-based-diet jokes at my own expense.  The &quot;Hey, if I forget to bring my lunch I can go outside and eat grass&quot; goes over big.

The flaw in your plan is obvious: once you&#039;ve succeeded in eating all the animals to save Gaia, then what?  You&#039;re left no choice but to become a VEGETARIAN, and probably an America-hating, baby-raping, islamo-commie faggit besides.  Driving a my-sister&#039;s-vibrator-has-more-power-than-this electric car, no doubt.

Or wait -- you could switch to cannibalism!  Eat the babies after you rape them, so you wouldn&#039;t have to go veg.  God forbid.

I&#039;d post a gratuitous Magma video to extrapolate this point further, but the fascist meat-eater management blocks our youtube access at work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sirened:</p>
<p>The term you&#8217;re looking for is &#8220;carnivore,&#8221; and I&#8217;ve already heard every veggie-bashing joke there is.  But don&#8217;t worry, I don&#8217;t take myself too seriously, and I&#8217;ve made plenty of plant-based-diet jokes at my own expense.  The &#8220;Hey, if I forget to bring my lunch I can go outside and eat grass&#8221; goes over big.</p>
<p>The flaw in your plan is obvious: once you&#8217;ve succeeded in eating all the animals to save Gaia, then what?  You&#8217;re left no choice but to become a VEGETARIAN, and probably an America-hating, baby-raping, islamo-commie faggit besides.  Driving a my-sister&#8217;s-vibrator-has-more-power-than-this electric car, no doubt.</p>
<p>Or wait &#8212; you could switch to cannibalism!  Eat the babies after you rape them, so you wouldn&#8217;t have to go veg.  God forbid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d post a gratuitous Magma video to extrapolate this point further, but the fascist meat-eater management blocks our youtube access at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah Stevens</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hannah Stevens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original design of the farm bill was designed to help the small farmer stay in business and like most bills, it has somehow evolved to subsidize the large factory farms making 100s of thousands of dollars. We need to have congress change this. In Europe they do subsidize the small family farms and I think we need to do this in America. But with the corporations driving everything in our country I don&#039;t hold much hope. Factory farms are bad in every way; bad for the animals, for people and the environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original design of the farm bill was designed to help the small farmer stay in business and like most bills, it has somehow evolved to subsidize the large factory farms making 100s of thousands of dollars. We need to have congress change this. In Europe they do subsidize the small family farms and I think we need to do this in America. But with the corporations driving everything in our country I don&#8217;t hold much hope. Factory farms are bad in every way; bad for the animals, for people and the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sirened</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sirened]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always preached that people should become &quot;meatatarians&quot; so animals will stop feeding off precious mother Earth. I think that is what&#039;s truly eco-friendly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always preached that people should become &#8220;meatatarians&#8221; so animals will stop feeding off precious mother Earth. I think that is what&#8217;s truly eco-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward, the mad shirt grinder</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward, the mad shirt grinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, this is pretty much what turned me vegetarian (with, unfortunately, some later backsliding).  It&#039;s not as if this is some new analysis.  Go read &lt;i&gt;Diet for a Small Planet&lt;/i&gt;, first published circa 1972.  And chiggins is right on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is pretty much what turned me vegetarian (with, unfortunately, some later backsliding).  It&#8217;s not as if this is some new analysis.  Go read <i>Diet for a Small Planet</i>, first published circa 1972.  And chiggins is right on.</p>
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		<title>By: chiggins</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chiggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It oughta be mentioned that calling corn &quot;cattle feed&quot; is like calling corn &quot;cat food&quot;. Cows aren&#039;t supposed to eat that crap.

In fact, if we were raising cows on &lt;i&gt;grass&lt;/i&gt;, the food they were meant to eat, we&#039;d be getting meat and dairy of a higher quality, nutritional density, and without the nasty medicines they require to keep them alive on that diet. We&#039;d be getting less of it, and it would cost more, which also wouldn&#039;t be such a tragedy. But perhaps most importantly, we&#039;d be turning &lt;i&gt;grass&lt;/i&gt; into &lt;i&gt;something we can eat&lt;/i&gt;, instead of using something we can &lt;i&gt;already eat&lt;/i&gt; in a way that&#039;s inefficient and causes the cow to get really sick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It oughta be mentioned that calling corn &#8220;cattle feed&#8221; is like calling corn &#8220;cat food&#8221;. Cows aren&#8217;t supposed to eat that crap.</p>
<p>In fact, if we were raising cows on <i>grass</i>, the food they were meant to eat, we&#8217;d be getting meat and dairy of a higher quality, nutritional density, and without the nasty medicines they require to keep them alive on that diet. We&#8217;d be getting less of it, and it would cost more, which also wouldn&#8217;t be such a tragedy. But perhaps most importantly, we&#8217;d be turning <i>grass</i> into <i>something we can eat</i>, instead of using something we can <i>already eat</i> in a way that&#8217;s inefficient and causes the cow to get really sick.</p>
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		<title>By: grandlaff</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/05/05/its-things-like-this-that-turn-sane-people-vegetarian/#comment-5611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grandlaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vegetarian for 15 years now and still loving it.  Compassionate, eco-friendly, and healthy.  And getting dirty in the veggie garden is way more spiritual for me than going to church.

Come join us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegetarian for 15 years now and still loving it.  Compassionate, eco-friendly, and healthy.  And getting dirty in the veggie garden is way more spiritual for me than going to church.</p>
<p>Come join us.</p>
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		<title>By: herr doktor bimler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[herr doktor bimler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who uses a dishonest misleading thieving pyramid graph -- where the volume of the various pieces of pyramid bear no relationship to the 11 servings, 9 servings and 6 servings that they&#039;re supposed to represent -- is guilty of a Chartjunk Crime. The guilty parties should be beaten repeatedly over the head with a copy of &lt;i&gt;The Visual Display of Quantitative Information&lt;/i&gt;, before indefinite imprisonment in Edward Tufte&#039;s re-education gulag. One day they&#039;ll thank us for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who uses a dishonest misleading thieving pyramid graph &#8212; where the volume of the various pieces of pyramid bear no relationship to the 11 servings, 9 servings and 6 servings that they&#8217;re supposed to represent &#8212; is guilty of a Chartjunk Crime. The guilty parties should be beaten repeatedly over the head with a copy of <i>The Visual Display of Quantitative Information</i>, before indefinite imprisonment in Edward Tufte&#8217;s re-education gulag. One day they&#8217;ll thank us for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those sand cookies look delicious! If they&#039;re so &quot;hard up&quot; why do they have butter and salt to flavor their delicious dirt meals? These hungry people are a bunch of elitist, humbugs who just want me too feel bad because I&#039;m super talented and earned all this delicious beef. Just because you get born here or there doesn&#039;t mean you have to be so dreary with your bloated stomaches and your scurvey. La dee da, Monsieur! Does Whitney from &quot;The Hills&quot; complain because she has the pelvis of a clydesdale? No. Does President Laura Bush do you a favor Burma by not bombing your asses pre-Exxon forced village pipeline slavery program? Hell yeah! 

So why don&#039;t they just eat Top Ramen? 

What?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those sand cookies look delicious! If they&#8217;re so &#8220;hard up&#8221; why do they have butter and salt to flavor their delicious dirt meals? These hungry people are a bunch of elitist, humbugs who just want me too feel bad because I&#8217;m super talented and earned all this delicious beef. Just because you get born here or there doesn&#8217;t mean you have to be so dreary with your bloated stomaches and your scurvey. La dee da, Monsieur! Does Whitney from &#8220;The Hills&#8221; complain because she has the pelvis of a clydesdale? No. Does President Laura Bush do you a favor Burma by not bombing your asses pre-Exxon forced village pipeline slavery program? Hell yeah! </p>
<p>So why don&#8217;t they just eat Top Ramen? </p>
<p>What?</p>
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