Why does George W. Bush’s former chief counter-terrorism expert hate America?
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OLBERMANN: Democrats, probably the Democrats today, said impeachment was not a remedy to this. But can anybody argue with a straight face, post-Lewinsky, that these lies, the blood and treasure that they cost us, don`t demand some kind of remedy? Is there some other kind of remedy?
CLARKE: There may be some other kind of remedy. There may be some sort of truth and reconciliation commission process that`s been tried in other countries, like South Africa, el Salvador and what not, where if you come forward and admit that you were in error, admit that you lied, admit that you did something, then you`re forgiven. Otherwise, you are censured in some way.
I just don`t think we can let these people back into polite society and give them jobs on university boards and corporate boards and just let – - pretend that nothing ever happened when there are 4,000 American dead and 25,000 Americans grievously wounded. And they will carry those wounds and suffer all the rest of their lives. Someone should have to pay in some way for the decisions that they made to mislead the American people.
In a vacuum, the compendium of mistakes, misappropriations of power, abrogation of the constitution, and general recklessness of the Administration might demand strong punishment, such as impeachment. But in the current political reality, this will never happen even if it should. Short of this, as Clarke pointedly suggests, none of these guys should have any elevated positions in academia, private business or the public sector. Just ask John Yoo or Doug Feith. The author of Bush’s torture policy is having a very very hard time at Berkeley Law School while the architect of the Iraq war recently failed to have his teaching contract renewed at Georgetown Law due to faculty protests.
There might be outlets for folks like these, say Pat Robertson’s Regent University School of Law, but when it comes to polite society, as Clarke suggests, they should be forced to stay away.
Quite. And above all, this needs to be done in a very transparent, very public way. These mustn’t be summary judgments – people must be allowed to defend themselves, established processes for dealing with complaints should be followed whenever possible, etc. The model shouldn’t be a jingosphere publicity ambush, but something designed to make a lasting statement in the history, a phrase of closure to the Bush Era: … And They Never Worked In This Town Again. Realistically, it is highly improbable that anyone important will ever go to prison for lying, or even for the actual crimes committed during the war. It is unlikely that any of the major players will personally suffer anything more than mild inconvenience, having to settle for less-prestigious wingnut welfare handout and sinecure instead of more substantive honors. But they are (hopefully) out of power in November, and so they are not going to be important anymore. The important audience will be precedent and history, so that this may never happen again.
June 6, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Well, what Clarke said, or we could just burn Mike Leeden at the stake.
June 6, 2008 at 2:49 pm
How sad that the best we can hope for is that these criminals get snubbed, and we can’t even be sure that will happen.
June 6, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Mr. Clarke is my nominee for Mr. Obama’s running mate.
June 6, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Don’t undervalue the practice of shunning.
I remember reading about how restaurants in LA would empty when OJ showed up after the murder trial. I myself have practiced the well-aimed snub, looking someone who had transgressed against me greviously years in the past full in the face and pretending not to recognize them or know who they were. Ultimately, to people who have always been overly self-important, shunning by those they have always considered their inferiors is about the most wounding thing that can be done.
Would that each of us had an opportunity to carry it out against each of these assholes.
June 6, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Thanks Miss Standish. Unless it drives them to madness or suicide, shunning’s thin beer.
I’m kidding of course about the Standish crack. But not about the beer.
June 6, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Thin beer is as good an expression of social obloquy as any. “You’ll never be served a decent ale in this town again”.
June 6, 2008 at 5:08 pm
The one and only time I actively sought revenge against someone, I threw a nasty spell on a co-worker. Within a few days, the object of my revenge was demoted, but a few weeks after that, I got fired. It’s my estimation that the cosmic blowback for an active resentment is about 2-1 and for an active act of revenge about 10-1. I don’t like them odds.
My attitude now is to leave these things to the pros and have an ice cream instead.
June 6, 2008 at 5:29 pm
News like this makes exposure to the Magma vids worth it.
June 6, 2008 at 5:49 pm
These guys aren’t going anywhere. Their won’t be any reconciliation hearings. Their won’t be any impeachment hearings. 90% of these guys will be back working as Lobbyists, think-tank members, future GOP admin staffers. There has to be a tremendous public demand, that I just don’t see beyond answering poll questions in the negative, (for example.)
June 6, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Hopefully — Pinochet may provide the model and they’ll never be able to leave the U.S.
June 6, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Why does George W. Bush’s former chief counter-terrorism expert hate America?
Because he’s gay, duh. Islamofascism ahoy, sailor!
June 6, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Why does George W. Bush’s former chief counter-terrorism expert hate America?
Because he’s fucking scared.
June 6, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Wait a minute, aren’t these the same guys that prolonged Vietnam in order to reelect Nixon?
Aren’t these the same guys that ran all the dirty wars in Latin America?
I’ve got a great idea. Let’s just give them the stink eye, then ignore them. This time they’ll probably go away and never come back.
June 6, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Nothing less than The Hague for those merciless, war crime committin’ motherfuckers. This country is too fucking weak to bring them to justice, hopefully the rest of the civilized world will.
June 7, 2008 at 9:28 am
Gonzales gets job
June 7, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Clarke:
you come forward and admit that you were in error
Yeah, I see that happening. My solution has something to do with a tumbril ride to the Place de la Concorde.
June 7, 2008 at 11:32 pm
When these people are hanging fron a rope at the Hague, and I do mean the whole lot, then I might consider shunning them.