Easterbrook (or at least a competent summary of his work), June 2008:
The odds that a potentially devastating space rock will hit Earth this century may be as high as one in 10. So why isn’t NASA trying harder to prevent catastrophe?
As Brad DeLong points out, this is utter bullshit, at least for any non-bullshit values of “potentially devastating” and “may be as high as.” Let’s consider the bullshittiness of this claim a little more. Easterbrook is panicked by the thought that maybe-once-a-century event like Tunguska could occur over the negligible percentage of Earth’s surface which is covered by dense cities. He writes:
The blast had hundreds of times the force of the Hiroshima bomb and devastated an area of several hundred square miles. Had the explosion occurred above London or Paris, the city would no longer exist.
A comparable destructive energy can be expected from a good-sized hurricane or typhoon, which have a tendency to strike coastal areas, a popular location for cities. Of course, this energy would be spread over a much greater area and time than would an asteroid/comet impact, making it a less concentrated destruction – but, therefore, that much more likely to hit inhabited areas. Or, if you don’t like that analogy, you can also get a much larger, and similarly rapid, yield from an 8.0+ earthquake, of which we get about one a year. Localized disasters of this sort happen hundreds or thousands or times more frequently than similarly-powerful asteroid/comet impacts, and yet somehow we don’t characterize them as the deadliest threats ever.
Sure, who knows? Maybe I’ll get hit by an asteroid on my way to work tomorrow. Maybe a new volcano will erupt under my bed tonight. Maybe everybody name their kids “Sharky” and they’ll all grow up to be pool hustlers and civilization will collapse. Maybe a wide variety of shit that, while not strictly impossible, is still not worth peeing your panties over. Fucking obviously.
Later we segue from merely enormously unlikely events like Tunguska-in-Paris to absolutely absurdly improbable events, of the sort which would “would likely end life on Earth.” Obviously, the chance of this happening is essentially nil, as life has existed on Earth without interruption for billions of years. There have been extinctions of large numbers of species in Earth’s history – we have an idea of when they happen, and how big they are – and some of them may have been precipitated by some kind of catastrophic extraterrestrial impact. How does this threat compare with the expected results of human-caused climate change?
The widely-accepted science on global warming, much like the highly speculative situations Easterbrook is fantasizing about, would have similar effects on the planet – mass extinction, starvation, disease, and massive physical destruction. According to a 2004 study in Nature, mid-range estimates for global warming could cause the extinction of 15-37% of all plant and animal species. The last extinction event which even approaches this magnitude was 33.5 million years ago, which may or may not have had something to do with some kind of extra-terrestrial impact. Sixty-five million years ago we have a mass extinction likely caused by the impact of one (or many fragments of an) asteroid, wiping out perhaps 30% of all species. Before that, we have to go back 200 million years. So, a survey of the last 200 million years tells us that at most we have extinctions from all causes on the order expected from global warming every 60-70 million years. (This may be too generous, as – according to this graph – the rate of extinctions appears to decrease over time. I dunno.) In other words: Gregg Easterbrook is an idiot.
Bringing up global warming and Easterbrook compels us again to remind everyone what a horrible liar he has been on this subject for decades. Remember, this is a person who claimed two years ago, when he magnanimously decided to accept the scientific consensus on this subject, that:
When global-warming concerns became widespread, many argued that more scientific research was needed before any policy decisions. This was hardly just the contention of oil-company executives. “There is no evidence yet” of dangerous climate change, the National Academy of Sciences declared in 1991.
Easterbrook, like Fred Hiatt, has a way with ellipses. From the report in question:
The panel finds that, even given the great uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses.
Followed by an entire chapter recommending immediate policy responses, all of which Gregg Easterbrook tries to disappear to cover is own gullible idiocy. He continues:
My own contrarian 1995 book about environmental issues, A Moment on the Earth, spent 39 pages reviewing the nascent state of climate science and concluded that rising temperatures “might be an omen or might mean nothing.” Like others, I called for more research.
Defending your opinion by citing your own opinion is a novel defense, admittedly, though it might be more convincing were the book not replete with howlers. But now, throwing his contrarian sangfroid to the wind, he is screaming that the federal government should spend billions to protect us from a “threat” which materializes once every few tens of million years, if ever. (Not like the money isn’t being wasted already, but still.) Huh. It’s almost as if he’s still trying to change the subject.
… People may wonder why I call people like Hiatt and Easterbrook “idiots” rather than “liars”. It’s because I am confident they don’t do their own work. Gregg Easterbrook has never read any report on climate change, and Fred Hiatt will never crack the cover of any intelligence report. They just don’t care enough. They are provided with pre-cherry picked excerpts by right-wing operatives selfless volunteer research assistants, tie this pre-packaged “research” together with their own prose, and present it as their own boldly truthful work. Nobody is stupid enough to make these mistakes by accident, and no liar would be brazen enough to cite a source which clearly contradicts them. They are like the kid in school who bases his book report on the Hollywoodmovie, and then, when he discovers that Hamlet doesn’t actually take place in New York City, frantically tries to cover his tracks. They are small, lazy, contemptible and very, very stupid people; and, unfortunately, they can be very destructive to our discourse. I believe that NASA should spend all its time building space lasers which can completely destroy every word these people write the moment they write it. Optionally, they should be ridiculed and abused until they are fired.
June 18, 2008 at 1:09 am
I get the Atlantic and read the article out of morbid curiousity. After I finished, I thought “huh. I would be concerned about this if it hadn’t been written by someone like Gregg Easterbrook. I assume he has no idea what he’s talking about.” Sure enough.
I’m hoping that ESPN will hire him for one column about how the Celtics cheated and were poor sports when they ran up the score on the poor Lakers in Game 6.
June 18, 2008 at 4:00 am
The odds that I buy a potentially winning lottery ticket this century are also one in ten.
wooh!
June 18, 2008 at 4:09 am
So why isn’t NASA trying harder to prevent catastrophe?
Since they are clearly not up to the challenge, the work could be outsourced to Blackwater.
June 18, 2008 at 5:28 am
Very low probability -> enormous amount of attention.
Very high probability -> ignore/deny/obfuscate.
Compare Michael Crichton’s attitudes to (for example) Japan taking over the world, or dinosaurs getting resurrected, or nanobots coordinating themselves to resemble human beings so as to take over the world.
Isn’t this essentially the key to the madness?
June 18, 2008 at 5:44 am
I think you are forgetting that ABC debate host Charlie Gibson kept telling the Democrats that we faced a 50% chance in the next 10 years of getting a U.S. city nuked.
And he must be right, because later I heard the same from Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich, who has always been correct on everything since he’s like this brilliant political philosopher & stuff.
June 18, 2008 at 5:44 am
Maybe a new volcano will erupt under my bed tonight.
Dionisio Pulido thought it a bit odd when he got up out of bed and found the dirt floor of his hut was a wee tad warm.
ONOEZ!!1! Durty messicans are smuggling volcanoes under their beds to erupt under our white women!
June 18, 2008 at 5:48 am
My impression is that the world’s astronomers and space agencies are actually doing pretty well at dealing with the space-impact threat, such as it is. Near-Earth asteroids are worth looking for and tracking, and it’s happening.
The biggest problem is PR, and dealing with the inevitable hyping of these threats that happens when they hit the news media. I’ve always thought it interesting that the color-coded Homeland Security threat scale was clearly based on the one developed to communicate asteroid-impact threats to the media. The interesting twist is that the aims of the two scales are completely different; the asteroid one is mostly designed to not exaggerate threats and convey how different from a clear and present danger most reports of near-Earth asteroids usually are; whereas the terrorism scale is designed to keep people in a constant state of fear (though in practice most people just ignore it). It’s all a matter of what the typical value is.
June 18, 2008 at 6:08 am
I was told there would be no math.
June 18, 2008 at 6:43 am
Don’t forget about this execrable scribble from last year about “the winners and losers” from global climate change.
June 18, 2008 at 6:45 am
I saw the Easterbrook story atop the Atlantic a few days back and deliberately waited to read The Eds evisceration instead.
I regret nothing.
June 18, 2008 at 6:45 am
Hilarity. If climate inactivists ever cite Easterbrook’s talking point — which I’m sure they will — now I know I can just link to this blog post and reply with a single word:
“Alarmist!”
– bi, International Journal of Inactivism
June 18, 2008 at 7:30 am
Preventing asteroid impacts : preventing climate change :: “humanitarian intervention” : actual humanitarianism.
In both cases, there are people who can’t get excited about a problem unless the solution involves shooting missiles at something/someone. I wonder why?
(I reckon you’ll be getting some pushback on this one. Expect irate Larry Niven fans hyperventilating about “the species”, shortly.)
June 18, 2008 at 8:15 am
It is worth noting that the impact of a large extra-terrestrial body (asteroid, comet, what have you) is, far from an improbability, a damn near CERTAINTY. It has happened repeatedly in the past, and there is absolutely no reason to believe that it will not happen repeatedly in the future.
What *IS* an improbability is that it will happen tomorrow, or even in the near future. Whereas global warming is, although something less CERTAIN of a threat (I am allowing for the unlikely possibility that the nutty flat-earther climate-change deniers could conceivably be right), it is much MUCH more likely an IMMEDIATE threat to most life on earth than the certain-but-probably-far-away threat of an extinction-level even caused by either an extra-terrestrial-object impact, or a super-volcano, or whatever.
That being said, yes, greggers is still an idiot.
June 18, 2008 at 9:36 am
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June 18, 2008 at 9:50 am
Fred Hiatt doesn’t even read his own newspaper.
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June 18, 2008 at 10:12 am
Imagine if a US city was utterly devastated by natural phenomena! An Earthquake perhaps. Or maybe some kind of flood/hurricane combo. Or a tornado. Imagine what a grinding moralist like Easterbrook would say if the government not only didn’t plan for it, but actually gutted the agencies that would deal with the catastrophes!
But the odds of anything like that happening are so remote, it’s way scarier to think of medium-sized space rocks and lasers.
June 18, 2008 at 10:20 am
jay jay jay
come now, we are trying to stay realistic here.
did you see that documentary “Armageddon”? while it was amazing that they had cameras everywhere that caught all that action, and that bruce willis of all people turns out to REALLY be an oil rig expert. though he is an oil rig expert who uses a shotgun for no good reason on an oil rig, which seems like a terrible idea.
gregg easterbrook can’t even spell his own first name.
June 18, 2008 at 10:28 am
By the way, I like being a bat-winged tannenbaum rex.
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June 18, 2008 at 11:08 am
Chances of them actually being fired before Paris is demolished by an asteroid? One in seven.
Stick with the space lasers.
June 18, 2008 at 11:48 am
robert,
see that’s part of my point: As it’s been conclusively shown that giant Earth-ending asteroids can be overcome with strategically-placed nukes and scrappy, colorful oil riggers who can live, laugh and love in space — why lasers? Seems like a terrible bother.
Since internet tradition calls for odds here, I’m giving Easterbrook 2 to 1 that his next article will take a polymathic look at Mars colonization for the Jews.
June 18, 2008 at 12:15 pm
You could give him some cake to choke on – some (recent?) research suggests that improbably large bolides that hit carbon-bearing rock could cause (and have caused, in the past) massive releases of fossil carbon into the atmosphere, with subsequent global warming causing mass extinctions due to increased bacterial release of H2S. There was a piece on this in a December 2007 New Scientist, which may be related to this work. (We’re doing pretty well releasing fossil carbon without asteroid assistance.)
June 18, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Did Greggers mention what impact a giant ball-o-rock hitting the earth will have on cheer-babes?
btw – being a silver lining kind of guy allow me to point out to “Dr.” Easterbrook that the extinction of human life would permanently end cheating by the NE Patriots, so it’s got that goin’ for it, which is nice.
June 18, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Do you think that Easterbrook gets paid enough to have staff interns do his research for him? I find that depressing on a number of levels. (I mean, reading scientific reports takes time, and I’m sure deadlines suck, but it’s, like, his job.)
the color-coded Homeland Security threat scale was clearly based on the one developed to communicate asteroid-impact threats to the media.
And here I thought they lifted it from the Star Trek alert system.
June 18, 2008 at 2:15 pm
the color-coded Homeland Security threat scale was clearly based on the one developed to communicate asteroid-impact threats to the media.
They couldn’t just send out a fax?
“HOLYFUCKING SHIT – An asteroid the size of the Astrodome is going to hit us in a couple of days” (Condition: Orange)
June 18, 2008 at 3:30 pm
I would certainly like to be in a elevated position with a staff of research assistants to make my mistakes for me.
This thread needs more Herr Doktors.
June 18, 2008 at 5:54 pm
If you want to be kind to your female (and concerned male) readers, you could avoid saying “peeing your panties”.
I would hope reason why obvious is on mild reflection, but in case it’s necessary, “panties” is clearly the word choice for the female not the male undergarments, so that it basically translates to “stop being such a girl”. Which you probably woulldn’t write.
June 18, 2008 at 8:52 pm
I, for one, take the threat of impacts from space objects seriously. That’s why I was pleased to hear recently that NASA has identified a large object on track to pass beneath the moon’s orbit sometime in the late 20′s, I forget the year. NASA doesn’t think it will hit the Earth, but they don’t know how close the object will come on its return trip after passing around the sun. They plan to track it closely, and if need be, send a satellite to intercept it and use its very small gravitational pull to slightly adjust the object’s trajectory away from the Earth.
I know it’s not a laser or nuke or anything, but man, Bruce Willis is gonna be really old by then.
June 19, 2008 at 6:33 am
Kiril:
Well exactly. The best thing to do concerning this potential threat is to scan the skies, to find objects long before they might be a concern. Then you can deal with them in effective but totally non-sexy ways. Since Shoemaker-Levy 9 there has in fact been an increased effort at observation, by NASA and others. Basic research – who knew it could be so useful?
June 19, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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June 20, 2008 at 9:09 am
Global Warming causes planetary incineration and desiccation. Official truth: “up to” 8% of the 2008 US cereal crop has been “damaged” by midwest flooding. Real truth: at least 20% has been entirely lost. Another 20-30% will be lost: low yields, fungus and insects, poor harvest, and compromised bulk transportation down the Mississippi. The propagandistic swill of ETERNAL GLOBAL WARNING, the Carbon Tax on Everything, fuel from crops… and Enviro-whinerism is leaking.
Management is about process not product. Empirical observation is discarded for faith-based initiatives. Can God make a collection plate so vast that even He cannot fill it? Sure! ALL OF THEM.
June 21, 2008 at 3:56 pm
uncle al,
If it was your actual intent to make sense, you failed.
September 8, 2008 at 11:09 am
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April 7, 2009 at 12:35 am
I’m reading an essay called “The New Convergence” by Easterbrook, and it has to be riddled with more logical fallacies, misleading statements, factual misrepresentations and out of context quotes than anything I’ve read in a while if not ever. You guys should check it out.
July 29, 2009 at 1:09 pm
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August 2, 2009 at 10:35 pm
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