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		<title>By: xoites</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-8018</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Repeal FISA is up and running. Anyone who wants to is welcome to sign up and become a blogger on it. The purpose of the blog is to organize a drive to repeal the FISA laws and all laws that pardon or give immunity from prosecution anyone who has violated the Constitution during the Bush Administration.

That is why we want everyone to be able to Post so they can start a conversation about an idea they have to make this happen.

Stop on by and check it out. By all means leave a comment and sign up to blog with us as we figure out what needs to be done to return our Fourth Amendment Rights and our rule of law.

If you have a blog already and you become a poster we will link to your site.

http://repealfisa.wordpress.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repeal FISA is up and running. Anyone who wants to is welcome to sign up and become a blogger on it. The purpose of the blog is to organize a drive to repeal the FISA laws and all laws that pardon or give immunity from prosecution anyone who has violated the Constitution during the Bush Administration.</p>
<p>That is why we want everyone to be able to Post so they can start a conversation about an idea they have to make this happen.</p>
<p>Stop on by and check it out. By all means leave a comment and sign up to blog with us as we figure out what needs to be done to return our Fourth Amendment Rights and our rule of law.</p>
<p>If you have a blog already and you become a poster we will link to your site.</p>
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		<title>By: O&#8217;er the land of the free-EEEEEE!!! &#8230; &#171; The Poor Man Institute</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[O&#8217;er the land of the free-EEEEEE!!! &#8230; &#171; The Poor Man Institute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7973</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything was going the Dems&#039; way in 2006, and they barely won the seat with a fairly conservative candidate.  I suppose the lack of any genuinely competitive statewide races and Barrow&#039;s conservatism may have made for poor turnout from African Americans, and that this may not be a problem this year, but this seems like a district where the PVI is misleading.

It is, at best, a marginally Democratic district.  Voting is incredibly racially polarized in districts like this, and that becomes worse with a Black candidate.  Maybe Obamathusiasm will increase turnout sufficiently that the more liberal black Democrat can win.  I don&#039;t at all see how that&#039;s the presumed outcome.  Given the results last time, I&#039;d say the presumed outcome of putting up a liberal Black candidate is to give the seat to the GOP, assuming they can field a halfway decent candidate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything was going the Dems&#8217; way in 2006, and they barely won the seat with a fairly conservative candidate.  I suppose the lack of any genuinely competitive statewide races and Barrow&#8217;s conservatism may have made for poor turnout from African Americans, and that this may not be a problem this year, but this seems like a district where the PVI is misleading.</p>
<p>It is, at best, a marginally Democratic district.  Voting is incredibly racially polarized in districts like this, and that becomes worse with a Black candidate.  Maybe Obamathusiasm will increase turnout sufficiently that the more liberal black Democrat can win.  I don&#8217;t at all see how that&#8217;s the presumed outcome.  Given the results last time, I&#8217;d say the presumed outcome of putting up a liberal Black candidate is to give the seat to the GOP, assuming they can field a halfway decent candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: The Editors</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7960</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess it depends on your definition of &quot;solid&quot;.  It&#039;s in a district Democrats should win, in a year when evrything is going their way.  I&#039;m calling that &quot;solid&quot;. If you want to suggest a different word that you think conveys the same idea better, I&#039;ll use it, but I don&#039;t personally see the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on your definition of &#8220;solid&#8221;.  It&#8217;s in a district Democrats should win, in a year when evrything is going their way.  I&#8217;m calling that &#8220;solid&#8221;. If you want to suggest a different word that you think conveys the same idea better, I&#8217;ll use it, but I don&#8217;t personally see the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It’s D+2, 45% black, and everything in 2008 is trending D. Democrats should be able to win this.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe.  But again, Barrow won by a tiny margin last time, and whites in the south won&#039;t vote for Black candidates.  Thomas would have a chance, given that it&#039;s 45% Black, but there would be a very high risk of losing the seat.

It&#039;s certainly not a solidly Democratic seat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s D+2, 45% black, and everything in 2008 is trending D. Democrats should be able to win this.</i></p>
<p>Maybe.  But again, Barrow won by a tiny margin last time, and whites in the south won&#8217;t vote for Black candidates.  Thomas would have a chance, given that it&#8217;s 45% Black, but there would be a very high risk of losing the seat.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly not a solidly Democratic seat.</p>
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		<title>By: The Editors</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Editors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;How is a district that Barrow won by fewer than 1000 votes last time a “solidly Democratic district?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia&#039;s_12th_congressional_district&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;D+2, 45% black&lt;/a&gt;, and everything in 2008 is trending D.  Democrats should be able to win this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How is a district that Barrow won by fewer than 1000 votes last time a “solidly Democratic district?”</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia's_12th_congressional_district" rel="nofollow">D+2, 45% black</a>, and everything in 2008 is trending D.  Democrats should be able to win this.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;and Barrow might lose in solidly Democratic district to a much more solid Democrat.&lt;/i&gt;

How is a district that Barrow won by fewer than 1000 votes last time a &quot;solidly Democratic district?&quot;

Regina Thomas, Barrow&#039;s liberal, African-American challenger, is almost certain to lose in the general election in a majority white district in Georgia. Only one African American has ever been elected in a majority white district in the South.  That one, Georgia&#039;s Sanford Bishop, was an incumbent (his district had been redrawn from majority Black to majority white), and is quite conservative - he&#039;s a Blue Dog and voted for this bill.  

I&#039;m not sure why Greenwald, et al, are trying to mislead people into thinking Georgia-12 is a safe Democratic district.  It&#039;s not, even for Barrow, and certainly not for Thomas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and Barrow might lose in solidly Democratic district to a much more solid Democrat.</i></p>
<p>How is a district that Barrow won by fewer than 1000 votes last time a &#8220;solidly Democratic district?&#8221;</p>
<p>Regina Thomas, Barrow&#8217;s liberal, African-American challenger, is almost certain to lose in the general election in a majority white district in Georgia. Only one African American has ever been elected in a majority white district in the South.  That one, Georgia&#8217;s Sanford Bishop, was an incumbent (his district had been redrawn from majority Black to majority white), and is quite conservative &#8211; he&#8217;s a Blue Dog and voted for this bill.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why Greenwald, et al, are trying to mislead people into thinking Georgia-12 is a safe Democratic district.  It&#8217;s not, even for Barrow, and certainly not for Thomas.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Has anybody done a comparison between US gov’t surveillance powers and those of other governments, especially Western Europe? It would provide some context for the non-immunity parts of the bill.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd%5B347%5D=x-347-559597&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Via Scott Horton&lt;/a&gt;, it isn&#039;t pretty.  Try Greece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Has anybody done a comparison between US gov’t surveillance powers and those of other governments, especially Western Europe? It would provide some context for the non-immunity parts of the bill.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd%5B347%5D=x-347-559597" rel="nofollow">Via Scott Horton</a>, it isn&#8217;t pretty.  Try Greece.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Memory</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7940</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doctor Memory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be worth people&#039;s time to try to &lt;a href=&#039;http://pol.moveon.org/immunity/080621obama.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hold Obama&#039;s feet to the fire&lt;/a&gt; on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be worth people&#8217;s time to try to <a href='http://pol.moveon.org/immunity/080621obama.html' rel="nofollow">hold Obama&#8217;s feet to the fire</a> on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Anne</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/06/23/your-fisa-advisa/#comment-7936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dodd was kneecapped once it became known he had a &quot;VIP mortgage.&quot;  Gosh, I wonder how they found out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodd was kneecapped once it became known he had a &#8220;VIP mortgage.&#8221;  Gosh, I wonder how they found out.</p>
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