Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said “Iraq” on Monday when he apparently meant “Afghanistan”, adding to a string of mixed-up word choices that is giving ammunition to the opposition.
Just in the past three weeks, McCain has also mistaken “Somalia” for “Sudan,” and even football’s Green Bay Packers for the Pittsburgh Steelers. [!!!]
Ironically, the errors have been concentrated in what should be his area of expertise: foreign affairs.
McCain will turn 72 the day after Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) accepts his party’s nomination for president at the age of 47, calling new attention to the sensitive issue of McCain’s advanced age three days before the start of his own convention.
[...]But McCain’s mistakes raise a serious, if uncomfortable question: Are the gaffes the result of his age? And what could that mean in the Oval Office?
Voters, thinking about their own relatives, can be expected to scrutinize McCain’s debate performances for signs of slippage.
Every voter has a parent, grandparent or a friend whose mental acuity declined as they grew older.
Especially true if your last name is “McCain”. John Cole thinks Democrats shouldn’t “go there” (as the kids are wont to say), and I suppose that’s true, because old people vote. It does raise the issue of what “making age an issue” would look like. Asking McCain to denounce every silly thing said by anyone over the age of 65? Wondering “what kind” of old person he is? Or if he is really an old person at all – he’s not really properly old, like 96 or 103 or something; he’s like a weird old-adult hybrid, a “half-elder” or a “semi-nior citizen”? Worrying about the peculiar old-folks’ church he goes to, and whether he is a secret druid? (Probably out of the question, as McCain doesn’t bother with church.) Or doctoring audio of his wife so it sounds like she’s whipping a crowd of radical retirees into an age-war frenzy by blaming all the world’s ills on “whipper-snappers”? Or … mmm …. ahhh … huh? Where was I going with this? Who are you people? I think you’re stealing from me! I’m calling the police! What’s the number for 911?
Still, dude’s old.
July 22, 2008 at 10:32 am
it can’t be denied: some of the world’s very worst people have been old.
July 22, 2008 at 10:35 am
I like old people. My grandma is old and I still love her. And I will love her and be glad she’s in my life when and if her mind starts to slip and she starts calling me something else. I volunteer at the local senior center and help old people get on the internets. But that doesn’t mean I want them to be running our country. Just like I wouldn’t want them to be performing surgery on me. For that I would want a middle-aged person (just enough experience but also young and healthy enough to be able to control their hand movements and what they say).
July 22, 2008 at 10:44 am
Here’s the dirty secret all of us know and no one will admit to: there are decent old people, and then there are codgers, who are, and have long been, a fifth column.
Wake up, young people!
July 22, 2008 at 10:52 am
I believe the term for old-adult hybrid is “oldeo” –you know, based on that popular cookie that’s made of old wafers and adult filling.
July 22, 2008 at 10:54 am
Codgers are a pain in my ass. Old Coots are far worse. I’m not sure which element is more prominent in Oldy McOldman, but either way, it hurts to sit down when he’s on my TV, internets, and what have you.
Do you think McCain has the Old Man Smell? Why haven’t journalists tried to find this out? Are they sandbagging us like they did with Iraq, Plame-gate, and what have you?
July 22, 2008 at 11:10 am
ust like I wouldn’t want them to be performing surgery on me. For that I would want a middle-aged person (just enough experience but also young and healthy enough to be able to control their hand movements and what they say).
Dr Michael DeBakey, who oversaw a quadruple bypass operation on Boris Yeltsin at the age of 88. (True, he didn’t do the cutting himself. But, still, well played.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/health/01docs.html?pagewanted=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1216750155-nqWRFJhIpwu2EzfMftSp4A
July 22, 2008 at 11:13 am
Jesus, the media just won’t stop misdescribing this, will they?
July 22, 2008 at 11:16 am
Oh noes! I’ll bet McCain is a secret elderly!
Gosh, it’s enough to make a soul wish we had, I dunno, some dinosaur or helicopter to save us from having a president over the age of 47…
July 22, 2008 at 11:19 am
Why do I expect during his first Rose Garden press conference, he’d suddenly turn to the microphones and scream “HEY! YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!”
July 22, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I think,(I know), John McCain is trying to consume your infant.
July 22, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Leave age out of it. McCain was born crazy?
July 22, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I’m not an agist. Some of my best friends are old.
July 22, 2008 at 1:23 pm
The first couple of comments put me in mind of an Age War-related Mr. Show sketch and, naturally, my own post.
Testicular electrocution for everyone!
July 22, 2008 at 1:30 pm
you kids get off of my lawn!
July 22, 2008 at 1:31 pm
oh fuck carl beat me to the punchline. that’s what i get for posting a comment before reading the thread.
anywho, as someone else said somewhere else, maybe age isn’t an issue, but obama isn’t going to be any blacker in november.
July 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm
hey! what the fuck kind of icon is that next to my comments??? where’s my lovable kangaroo cartoon icon?
July 22, 2008 at 2:03 pm
It’s not that McCain’s old, it’s that he looks godawful on HDTV, a technologic advance that the much more waddled (and addled) Reagan did not have to contend with.
July 22, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Knock knock!
Who’s there?
John McCain!
John McCain who?
…What’s that, sonny?
July 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm
It’s a clever GOP trap! They’re encouraging McCain to act befuddled and senescent.
Then BAMMO!once Obama-surrogates call McCain “old,” it’s a free pass to call Obama “nigger.”
I’m half-kidding!
July 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Yeah, old people vote, but plenty of them don’t want a cranky, failing old guy as president either. There are some people who are full of energy and sharp as a tack into their 80′s, but McCain isn’t one of them.
July 22, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Every voter has a parent, grandparent or a friend whose mental acuity declined as they grew older.
But, but… according to David Brooks, that just means more votes for Mccain, baby!
July 22, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I figured it was just a slip, that the border of Iraq and Afghanistan is AKA “Iran”, which is a problem we must bomb bomb bomb.
July 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I love people; all ages, all colors, and I don’t care about their sex lives (unless their sleeping with animals or something kooky like that).
My Mother is older than John McCain and she sends emails on a regular basis. She searches the internet via Ask.com, Dogpile, and turned me onto Colosus … and yes, she can ‘Google’ (not to be confused with Teh Google) with the best of us. We do not agree, yet we talk and understand each other’s position. My Mom is 76 years old.
The age of the potential ‘Leader Of The Free (ha-ha) World’ is not so much an issue. The intelligence of the President of the United States is an issue! I will not vote for a man who is more stupid than Bush. I will not vote for a man who has less intelligence and common sense than myself or my mother. I will not vote for a man who lies. We’ve been living with liars like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield for 8 friggin’ years and I can’t take it anymore.
Lord have mercy on our souls, but we have GOT TO GET OUT FROM UNDER this corporate lunacy that controls every facet of government and the departments we established, pay for, and are designed to protect us. Enough is enough.
I think we can all agree, it’s not unreasonable or partisan to say, ‘America has serious war-related problems that affect our lives here and lives of people abroad’. Is it so hard for us to admit that ‘As Americans we have seriously screwed up the last 8 years and we need to reclaim our humanity?
That we need to turn off the television and read, and grow, and act responsibly for our kids, and vote our conscious?
The President Of The United States in 2008 should be a STRONG person able to ENDURE … because he will be responsible for THE HUGE BURDEN OF REVERSING THE CURRENT COURSE OF DESTRUCTION within this country (on so many levels i haven’t time to list) and throughout the Globe!
McCain is not merely too old, he is simply not qualified based on the fact that I am smarter than McCain.
Hey, maybe i should create a website called that! :-)
UPDATE: The domain is open. If anyone steals this idea, I want a percentage … after I contribute, of course. ;-)
July 22, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Oh hey, sorry if it sounds like I don’t like your website, because i do! McCain is older than dirt, but i’m just sooooo pissed that he is getting away with his lies and stupidity.
Perhaps i’m just ranting because there is very little ‘reality based discussion’ about WHAT WE NEED.
It’s like going to dinner and the menu consists of … Filet Mignon and SPAM. Given the choices, no wonder folks in America and all over the Globe are ‘enthusiastically’ choosing the former over the left-over laster that smells and tastes like the last 8 years of excrement sold to the American people by FAUX News while their parent, GE, negotiates MORE deals in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I’m rambling, but seriously.
Enough is enough.
Let’s talk about what we DO want!!
July 22, 2008 at 7:16 pm
I think I just got old from reading some of these long comments, dagnabit.
July 22, 2008 at 7:53 pm
hey The Editors,
A really funny thing right now is the thread over at Atlas Juggs about Obama’s birth certificate. There’s this anonymous guy called Techdude, see, who got threatened by a mutilated rabbit but nonetheless courageously (and anonymously, but he’s an expert, trust him) determined that the BO birth certificate is a forgery without ever seeing an actual real live copy of it. Then there’s a mile of hilarious comments.
OK, I got bored just typing this, but still, it’s funny and I bet you could do something with the material.
July 23, 2008 at 4:56 am
Instead of Oldy McOldfart being semi-nior, think of him as semi-noir. Shadowy & moody, but with upbeat subtitles.
And where the intercourse is your review of Rush on the Colbert Report?
July 23, 2008 at 6:15 am
In my day they didn’t call them turkey’s, we’d call them ‘walin’ birds’. We’d all go into town, I had my onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time, we’d go in and order up ‘walkin bird with all the fixins’, you’d say….
July 23, 2008 at 8:31 am
Don’t want him running the country? I don’t want him running a Honda Accord.
RIM shot! Or is it rim SHOT! Either way.
July 23, 2008 at 8:40 am
Every time I read a personal anecdote purporting to instruct me on something or other, I am reminded of this quote from Gilbert & Sullivan’s costume designer in Topsy-Turvy:
“I will not alter one stitch of your costume to protect the sensibilities of your wife, your children, or any other member
of your unfortunate family.”
July 23, 2008 at 8:42 am
Also, when I read a desperate entreaty for the author of a website to issue the 5,487th blogospheric rejoinder to some crazy person’s crazy project, I am reminded that Meet the Spartans was on top of the box office for one brief shining moment.
July 23, 2008 at 10:33 am
¡El Gato Negro! Says:
July 22, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Every voter has a parent, grandparent or a friend whose mental acuity declined as they grew older.
That’s what won the elections in 2000 for Dick Cheney! (Besides Kitty, that is. And the Supremes. And he didn’t win anyways.)
~
July 23, 2008 at 10:36 am
re: sonic @ 26,
I’ve been wondering for a while whether that whole birth certificate thing was instigated by our side as a distraction. Not that I doubt the right’s ability to do stupid things on their own. You know, I just wondered. If it wasn’t an example of ratfucking, it definitely could have been.
July 23, 2008 at 10:42 am
Okay okay, it isn’t The Editors, obviously, even if they HEAVILY BORROWED from him, but it isn’t bad either:
Cranky B. McStrain even makes a cameo.
{B stands for Bowel)
July 23, 2008 at 10:43 am
Buskertype reads my mind. Whether the current wackiness real or ratfucked, it marks Juggs’ place as a good place to start trouble.
July 23, 2008 at 10:49 am
Her or Michelle M. if you catch my drift.
They swallow anything, evidently.
July 23, 2008 at 2:55 pm
After the Disaster That Is the Bush Administration, the Republicans prayed for another Reagan. God rummaged around in his junk drawer and tossed them another demented old fart. They weren’t too pleased, so he threw in Dole’s bum arm and Betty Ford’s drug addiction. When they whined about that, he plunked down Gingrich’s infidelity. “Tell me when you’ve had enough,” he said, “I’ve got plenty more where that came from.”
July 23, 2008 at 8:57 pm
My Dad is 86. He thinks McCain is too old.
July 24, 2008 at 12:32 am
If McCain is elected the same people who ran the country in the 1980′s will be in charge again.
(You know, the ones who supplied weapons to South American narco-terrorists AND negotiated with Iran, literally in the same breath.)
Fuck them.
(also, my dad served in the frickin navy, also as a pilot, often at the same bases with McCain, and thinks he might just not vote this time around)
July 24, 2008 at 4:02 am
So what do you attribute all the “gaffes” made by the young AA guy? Wait – he used cocaine before so must be the drug use caused his brain cells to deteriorate. If you ask me – I would prefer an old senile guy for President than a young Brain damaged due to cocaine use one. At least Mc Cain knows there are only 50 states and how long a Presidential term can be, and that the Great Lakes are in Michigan and not Oregon, and he is the list of the many “senior moments” the young guy had http://obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/
July 24, 2008 at 5:11 am
>control their hand movements
Whew… I didn’t think “hand” was where that sentence was heading when I started it… with the brain bleach bottle due for a refill you can understand my concern.
July 24, 2008 at 6:41 am
~I would prefer an old senile guy for President than a young Brain damaged due to cocaine use one.~
Yeah, the 2000 South Carolina Republican primary sure was disappointing, all right.
July 24, 2008 at 7:28 am
Maybe it depends on the person and not their demographic, post 35, as the dinosaur’s instructed Jesus.
July 24, 2008 at 11:38 am
http://edgeofthewest.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/vanityfair.jpg?w=200
July 24, 2008 at 11:41 am
“Someone say cocaine? (nasal noise)” George W. Bush, 1968-1999
July 24, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Teh funny has moved over to a blog called TexasDarlin now.
I mean, it’s a colossal waste of time, but it’s still pretty funny.
July 24, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Teh funny is colossal but not wasteful.
July 25, 2008 at 12:23 am
Sorry to keep bringing this stuff up, but you should really take a look at Pam Juggs’s place right now. In the wake of Obama’s Berlin speech, she’s doing an Obama=Hitler thing that has to be seen to be believed.
July 25, 2008 at 5:46 am
Pam’s Juggs r hot…
July 25, 2008 at 6:30 am
Yeah cuz like Berlin and Nuernberg are so like, similar. And Hitlerjugend is just like the DFHs, too. Well except for the borrowings from the Wandervogel, which really were similar to DFHs.
But they ate brown rice, sang Stephen Foster songs, and didn’t have uniforms.
July 25, 2008 at 8:12 am
FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING LOVE OF GOD JUST TAKE ONE FUCKING LOOK AT HER PLACE! HOLY JESUS MY INTERNAL ORGANS ARE DISINTEGRATING IN ANTICIPATION!
July 25, 2008 at 9:43 am
“HOLY JESUS MY INTERNAL ORGANS ARE DISINTEGRATING IN ANTICIPATION!”
That sounds bad. Luckily, I have a personal anecdote that can provide you with instruction as to how to alleviate your suffering.
All you have to do is go over there and actually view the content in question, while simultaneously washing down a cat turd with some cat urine. This will stop the disintegration.
I mean, I haven’t tried it myself, but I read about it on a blog.
July 26, 2008 at 12:20 am
Old people vote. But they also have first-hand knowledge of how fucked being old is.