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		<title>By: Is that &#8220;Freedom Rock&#8221;, man? &#171; THE TOOT</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-15591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is that &#8220;Freedom Rock&#8221;, man? &#171; THE TOOT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Rock&#8221;,&#160;man? Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized &#160;  Bill Ayers, aka SOHNEHO, has an Op-Ed in the NY Times.  Go on, read it.  Just click the link and read it.  You know you [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rock&#8221;,&nbsp;man? Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized &nbsp;  Bill Ayers, aka SOHNEHO, has an Op-Ed in the NY Times.  Go on, read it.  Just click the link and read it.  You know you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Too far to care &#171; The Poor Man Institute</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-13058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Too far to care &#171; The Poor Man Institute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] trail blazed by internet wingnuts: constructing conspiracy theories about how Ward Churchill and SOHNEHO, along with ACORN and/or the NAACP (which they appear to have confused with C.O.B.R.A.), are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] trail blazed by internet wingnuts: constructing conspiracy theories about how Ward Churchill and SOHNEHO, along with ACORN and/or the NAACP (which they appear to have confused with C.O.B.R.A.), are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cathy</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard on NPR that the guy behind the Old Hippie ads is using a tax exempt group to run them.  Why is it that if I give $10 to a candidate I have to pay taxes on it, but McCain millionaires can spend hundreds of thousands on a smear campaign and they get a tax deduction?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on NPR that the guy behind the Old Hippie ads is using a tax exempt group to run them.  Why is it that if I give $10 to a candidate I have to pay taxes on it, but McCain millionaires can spend hundreds of thousands on a smear campaign and they get a tax deduction?</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Owen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This confuses me:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODkzNWI4YmIwN2NmMWIxYWRlNmE3MDM1OGJlMWZkYjI=

&quot;But the last quarter of her speech had a lot of optimism and confidence about America&#039;s future. No hardships or obstacles can stop America. I like that a lot. Obama never does it; he&#039;s a pessimist.&quot;

-- Larry Kudlow

wha?  Obama is a pessimist now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This confuses me:</p>
<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODkzNWI4YmIwN2NmMWIxYWRlNmE3MDM1OGJlMWZkYjI" rel="nofollow">http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODkzNWI4YmIwN2NmMWIxYWRlNmE3MDM1OGJlMWZkYjI</a>=</p>
<p>&#8220;But the last quarter of her speech had a lot of optimism and confidence about America&#8217;s future. No hardships or obstacles can stop America. I like that a lot. Obama never does it; he&#8217;s a pessimist.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; Larry Kudlow</p>
<p>wha?  Obama is a pessimist now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...that having your sockpuppets drag up obscure shit from the Sixties makes you sound like a old fool who is obsessed with the fucking Sixties...&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, but, see, here&#039;s the thing:  Republicans have basically had only 3 basic tools in the belt for the past 40 years:  fear and loathing of brown people, fear of communists (which they traded in for fear of terrorists), and &quot;remember those dirty fucking hippies in the 60&#039;s?&quot;  Every presidential campaign &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; the 60s has been &lt;i&gt;about&lt;/i&gt; the 60s in ways both small and large, both blatant and subtle.  &lt;i&gt;Because the Republicans have made the 60s an issue in every presidential campaign for the past 40 years.&lt;/i&gt;  Think about the media - is there any established media figure who has &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; covered a presidential campaign that &lt;i&gt;wasn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; in some way about the 60s?  Those guys are all dead or retired now.  So that&#039;s been their template for as long as any of them can remember, too.

As soon as McCain clinched the nomination, it was clear to me that once again, the Republicans were going to try to stir up the 60s.  It was honestly one of the biggest reasons I supported Obama over Hillary.  Because I just knew that if Hillary was the nominee, the campaign would be, as usual, all about the 60s.  Because the Clintons had taken the bait and engaged the Republicans on the 60s stuff in pretty much every campaign either of them ever ran.  I knew with Obama that wasn&#039;t going to happen - that you&#039;d have one side spluttering &quot;but...but...but....THE 60S!!!11!!&quot; and the other one saying, &quot;uh, what about them?  I was 8 when they ended - what do the 60s have to do with anything NOW?&quot;

All I can say is, it&#039;s about damn time.  Though I&#039;m sure that from now until I die, every campaign will be about Iraq and how the DFHs lost &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; war for us, too.  On the bright side, at least all the Iraq shit happened when I was a sentient being, not a fucking 5 year old, so I can at least feel like it has something to do with my life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;that having your sockpuppets drag up obscure shit from the Sixties makes you sound like a old fool who is obsessed with the fucking Sixties&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Yeah, but, see, here&#8217;s the thing:  Republicans have basically had only 3 basic tools in the belt for the past 40 years:  fear and loathing of brown people, fear of communists (which they traded in for fear of terrorists), and &#8220;remember those dirty fucking hippies in the 60&#8242;s?&#8221;  Every presidential campaign <i>since</i> the 60s has been <i>about</i> the 60s in ways both small and large, both blatant and subtle.  <i>Because the Republicans have made the 60s an issue in every presidential campaign for the past 40 years.</i>  Think about the media &#8211; is there any established media figure who has <i>ever</i> covered a presidential campaign that <i>wasn&#8217;t</i> in some way about the 60s?  Those guys are all dead or retired now.  So that&#8217;s been their template for as long as any of them can remember, too.</p>
<p>As soon as McCain clinched the nomination, it was clear to me that once again, the Republicans were going to try to stir up the 60s.  It was honestly one of the biggest reasons I supported Obama over Hillary.  Because I just knew that if Hillary was the nominee, the campaign would be, as usual, all about the 60s.  Because the Clintons had taken the bait and engaged the Republicans on the 60s stuff in pretty much every campaign either of them ever ran.  I knew with Obama that wasn&#8217;t going to happen &#8211; that you&#8217;d have one side spluttering &#8220;but&#8230;but&#8230;but&#8230;.THE 60S!!!11!!&#8221; and the other one saying, &#8220;uh, what about them?  I was 8 when they ended &#8211; what do the 60s have to do with anything NOW?&#8221;</p>
<p>All I can say is, it&#8217;s about damn time.  Though I&#8217;m sure that from now until I die, every campaign will be about Iraq and how the DFHs lost <i>that</i> war for us, too.  On the bright side, at least all the Iraq shit happened when I was a sentient being, not a fucking 5 year old, so I can at least feel like it has something to do with my life.</p>
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		<title>By: kenmeer livermaile</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kenmeer livermaile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The power of Christ compels me, my friends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power of Christ compels me, my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustard is Evil</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mustard is Evil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is freakin&#039; awesome. With an acknowledged terrorist based in Chicago, working in conjunction with the University of Illinois, Illinois Board of Education, and most liberal senator in the history of history from the left-wing haven of Hyde Park, it&#039;s a matter of time before the wingnuts start referring to the evil, godless immorality of &quot;Chikillgo values&quot; in Ill-annoy-istan. I&#039;ve always been jealous of Frisco and &quot;Taxachusetts.&quot; 

You know what they say, &quot;Being demonized by right-wing morons is the sincerest form of flattery.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is freakin&#8217; awesome. With an acknowledged terrorist based in Chicago, working in conjunction with the University of Illinois, Illinois Board of Education, and most liberal senator in the history of history from the left-wing haven of Hyde Park, it&#8217;s a matter of time before the wingnuts start referring to the evil, godless immorality of &#8220;Chikillgo values&#8221; in Ill-annoy-istan. I&#8217;ve always been jealous of Frisco and &#8220;Taxachusetts.&#8221; </p>
<p>You know what they say, &#8220;Being demonized by right-wing morons is the sincerest form of flattery.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: herr doktor bimler</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[herr doktor bimler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The phrase ‘emerging wingnut consensus’ creeps me out.&lt;/i&gt;
Indeed. Sounds like part of the backstory for the next Terminator movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The phrase ‘emerging wingnut consensus’ creeps me out.</i><br />
Indeed. Sounds like part of the backstory for the next Terminator movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kléber Raposadinho</title>
		<link>http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/25/staring-into-the-abyss/#comment-10256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kléber Raposadinho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May I call you Pernonally?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I call you Pernonally?</p>
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		<title>By: Kléber Raposadinho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kléber Raposadinho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CS Lewis Jr. Says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The only thing that I know about SOHNEHO is that he’s a terrorist who’s somehow not in prison.

He’s not in prison because the charges were dropped “due to prosecutorial misconduct.” He was a big wheel in Weatherman and part of the plot to set off a nail bomb in Fort Dix, killing a bunch of random soldiers to illustrate the immorality of the Vietnam War. Fortunately for the draftees, the terrorists blew themselves up instead.

The guy was clearly a murderous douchebag with delusions of righteousness, and he should have gone to prison. Instead, he’s the toast of Hyde Park, and an early supporter of Obama. He’s apparently done a bunch of good stuff since he failed at trying to be a terrorist, but eventheliberal Todd Gitlin thinks Ayers is a dick.

Relevance to the election: Essentially none, unless you want to point out that while Obama has ties to someone who tried to kill people to protest the Vietnam War, McCain actually *did* kill people to advance the Vietnam War. (Using bombs that only blew up bad guys, no doubt.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pernonally I thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=11:09fyxqr5ldae&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ayers&lt;/a&gt; jumped the shark after Yes, We Have No Mañanas, but suit yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS Lewis Jr. Says:</p>
<blockquote><p>The only thing that I know about SOHNEHO is that he’s a terrorist who’s somehow not in prison.</p>
<p>He’s not in prison because the charges were dropped “due to prosecutorial misconduct.” He was a big wheel in Weatherman and part of the plot to set off a nail bomb in Fort Dix, killing a bunch of random soldiers to illustrate the immorality of the Vietnam War. Fortunately for the draftees, the terrorists blew themselves up instead.</p>
<p>The guy was clearly a murderous douchebag with delusions of righteousness, and he should have gone to prison. Instead, he’s the toast of Hyde Park, and an early supporter of Obama. He’s apparently done a bunch of good stuff since he failed at trying to be a terrorist, but eventheliberal Todd Gitlin thinks Ayers is a dick.</p>
<p>Relevance to the election: Essentially none, unless you want to point out that while Obama has ties to someone who tried to kill people to protest the Vietnam War, McCain actually *did* kill people to advance the Vietnam War. (Using bombs that only blew up bad guys, no doubt.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Pernonally I thought <a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=11:09fyxqr5ldae" rel="nofollow">Ayers</a> jumped the shark after Yes, We Have No Mañanas, but suit yourself.</p>
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