Remember, according to New England sports fan rules, this is the worst thing that has ever happened to anybody. No other pain and disappointment can compare with this. Immediately put out of your mind the Celtics and Redsox. There is no more tortured sports fan than the New England sports fan. Your grandpappy, etc.
No, “according to New England sports fan rules,” this is the inevitable result of a bizarre and unnatural period of success. One can only hope that the Gods of Punishment are content to feast on Brady’s ACL, Manny’s ego, and nothing further. Not exactly likely, perhaps.
Vinny Testaverde on line three. I’m sure they’ll figure out how to get a veteran in there. I would think that NE would have a better shot at developing a solid back-up or in lieu of that have a veteran available on the roster. Every team needs two of everything. The Bills depth will serve them this year. We didn’t even need Jason Peters this week, and he’ll be back soon. Special Teams will win you six games a year, but the Bills also have a seven-eight man DL rotation and five CBs that rotate, two free safeties, in and out, and a Donte Whitner, to go with five legit linebackers. The WRs aren’t much past Lee Evans but Hardy and Stevie Johnson are comers. Robert Royal feels like he’s being questioned, he’s responding, they have no TE depth, which is a problem considering their offensive scheme. Lynch and Freddie Jackson are 4.0 ypc avg backs this year.The OL is deep at tackle and has the right combination of youth and experience avg 28 years-old.
Seattle was a West Coast team traveling East to play the early game. The fact that Buffalo was a one-point favorite when most people would think Seattle would be favored was a strong indicator that the bookies saw a wrinkle that lead them to believe that they would win, per Dr. Z at SI. If you look at next weeks schedule and predict the line, if the line comes in off three or more points for the team you felt was the dog, the book knows something you don’t, (usually.) Seattle didn’t have their best offensive unit out there, and Edwards had his usual accuracy issues. Jauron squeezes everything out of this team. The guys Marv Levy drafted are coming through.
Tomorrow I like Oakland and Minnesota for all the wrong reasons, so go with Denver and Green Bay, (why are the Packers favored, banged up and no Favre? See…) Denver is safer because Cutler is known and Russell is an unknown plus McFadden keeps running into his blockers and tackling himself, give the ball to Michael Bush already. I do know that Denver’s receivers are shady, and Javon Walker is mad. As far as the Vikings go, I recognize they lost 34-0 at Lambeau last year, but the Vikes are bringing Jared Allen with The Williams boy this time. The line is shady, and tells me that the Pack is going to win, because as bad as Jackson has been, young guys get better and he had a good pre-season at QB.
ACL. that sucks, and I’m very far from being a member of the National Tom Brady Love Association. And this has to be in part because Brady was somewhat physically unready. Belichick made a gamble and lost badly.
I won’t say the Patriots have character, since they have Randy Moss, but they do have grit, and they have a smart and ruthless coach. Let’s see if he has a contingency plan.
I think the theory behind this being the result of a Belichick gamble is that, were he fully healthy, Brady would never have had his knee so straight when he got hit.
Vinny Testaverde on line three. I’m sure they’ll figure out how to get a veteran in there. I would think that NE would have a better shot at developing a solid back-up or in lieu of that have a veteran available on the roster.
Kevin O’Connell, 3rd rounder out of SDSU this year – 6’6″, fast, and, it is claimed, the strongest arm on the Patriots team. Weirder things have happened.
I hate to say it, but the season just got a lot more interesting. Any team could win the AFC East – ok, not Miami, but any real team. The Colts look horrible. The Chargers look horrible. There’s apparently this thing called ‘the NFC’, too, and I heard they might play football there these days. It’s a whole new world.
osi umenyiora is a better and more important player than brady. sorry. ’tis true. and the gints are going to have to survive without him.
i predict the giants will, because as they showed last year man for man, player for player, they are a better team than the patriots, who were overly reliant on the Great Man Theory of history (belichick a marxist?). the patriots…they are going to eat a big heaping pile of shit.
I’m not a phys. guy, but a weak right foot causes the left leg to be favored, keeping it stiffer than it ought to be, which is halfway to an ACL right there. Hence my suspicion.
Remember the good ole days when every team with a star QB also had a very good backup? Bart Starr, Zeke Bartkowski; Johnny Unitas, Earl Morrall; Fran Tarkenton, Jack Kemp; Ken Stabler, George Blanda? Too important to wrap your whole season around one guy.
no, curv3y one, it merely highlights how much the gints are a TEAM that can overcome the loss of even their best player, whereas the patriots are a bunch of poseurs.
for some reason.
really, on a day the polls are this bad what the hell else is there to talk about?
As an actual NE sports fan (as opposed to those who apparently believe they can read the minds of NE sports fans), thoughts:
1. This is not “the worst thing that ever happened to anyone.” Its not even the worst thing that’s happened to Patriots fans in the last two meaningful games the Patriots played.
2. I don’t think NE sports fans still regard themselves as the most tortured fanbase. Or, really, even close to that. I suppose you could say that we think “we suffered, and we deserve our success” but really, 3 Super Bowl wins, 2 Sox WS wins, and a NBA finals win, all since 2001…our cups runneth over. I think most fans get that.
3. I appear to be in the minority (Deion: stick a fork in them, they’re done), but with their apparently weak schedule, good running backs, great receivers, and strongish defense (CBs worry me, and the LB core has a combo of too young [Mayo] and too old [Bruschi]), I still see the Patriots as a potential playoff team. Although at 10-6 rather than 14-2 or something. Especially since they have a better record than the Chargers or Colts. I can’t really see them making the SB, but I suppose stranger things have happened.
4. The last time a Patriots star QB went down, no one expected his backup—a guy who’d split time at college—to save the season. But that turned out OK.
Of course you speak the truth. But don’t expect that the hatahs will agree. They have too much vested in the hate.
I don’t #4 happening because Cassel is iffy (although I don’t know how Brady looked in the Pats 2001 pre-season, that would be good to know), but I’m with you on 3. In a sense, it will be cool to support the now-underdog team that has something to prove. Whether its sex, politics or football, spite is a good motivator.
And they have tons of talent on both sides of the ball.
Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien and Trent Dilfer won Super Bowls, after all. So we’ll see how it shapes up.
Of course you speak the truth. But don’t expect that the hatahs will agree. They have too much vested in the hate.
Yeah, I figure, if people can express their deep-seated insecurities through their watered-down, nigh-illiterate Kissing Suzy Kolber ripoffs, more power to ‘em. Better than working out their issues by voting Republican.
Herr Dr. Prof. is, as always correct on the relative merits of the major oval-ball codes.
Pelé @11, don’t be deliberately obtuse. Obviously the Professor is making an effort to speak American. Look, I love football (as opposed to “football”), but if you continue being bolshie in this vein I shall have no option but to point out that the game is fatally marred by, among other things, the existence of the Italian national 11.
“I hate to say it, but the season just got a lot more interesting.”
Now you know what is was like both before and after Michael Jordan retired. Only the best teams made the games competitive, otherwise 20+ point win.
It wasn’t that, though. That alone would’ve been okay (and the playoffs were always fun). It was the fact that every last person you’d never expect suddenly had become a huge Bulls fan, from your ninety year-old granny to that schmuck down the street who always claimed that sports are boring. Finally started watching again after he retired. Getting blown out by 20 never felt so right…
Of course you speak the truth. But don’t expect that the hatahs will agree.
Admittedly, much of my impression of NE fans comes from Bill Simmons, the all-time master of “I invented suffering”, even in the midst of unprecedented success. Plus he’s a shitty writer.
So okay, I can admit that I over-generalized. Still, the next time NE suffers a championship drought of over 3 years, you just know all of the moaning is gonna come back, full force.
I think Josh Johnson of U of San Diego would be a better bet then SDSU’s O’Connell, but the Pats worked out both. They had that kid from LSU for a longtime, (Lorenzen?, but not the hefty lefty) as a development project, reminded me of J-Russell, but I guess he didn’t work out. I’m sure he’s available. The thing with Brady out of the Big 10, is that the Big 10 back then was a NFL system league, the Mountain West is not. We shall see.
I think McCain has revealed his max, 47-49. Nothing else has changed. The fact remains, unless Ohio goes for Obama, which is unlikely it seems, we’ll have to cobble some states like CO,NV,NM,IA, and maybe even North Dakota, (which would take the cake.) http://www.forecastingprinciples.com/PollyVote/
I won’t say the Patriots have character, since they have Randy Moss, but they do have grit, and they have a smart and ruthless coach. Let’s see if he has a contingency plan.
See, this is what happens when you cheat. Not to mention Belichek’s awfulness. Oh, & the Packers won, as did the Jets. Suck. On. That.
P.S. It is too bad that a season has to end like that, but the coach took Brady off the injured list for the first time in 50 plus weeks. Who’d a thunk?
Uh, no. This is what happens when you don’t cheat. This idiotic idea of karma or divine retribution guiding the nickle back to Brady’s knee completely glides over the fact that if the Pats had simply cheated, Brady would have been able to know — via secret spycams — to side step the guy who was going after his knee and, presto! 19-0 here we come.
At this point only liberals, and the soon to be left-out-of-the-evolutionary-blueprint-types, think cheating is bad.
The mere existence of the GOP past Nixon, nevermind Reagan, the Bushies, Dick Cheney and John McCain — is proof that neither karma nor divine retribution has anything at all to do with cheaters.
Sorry Mercury Morris. That was this year’s projection, pre-injury.
What really scares me now is if somehow the Jets look at tape to gain clues about the Pats blitzing schemes! That would be against all known sportsmanship rules.
To that cheating rat bastard Belichek, and the obnoxious core of New England fans (many of whom undoubtedly became “Die Hard Fans” right about the time Adam Vinatieri kicked the game winner against the Rams in the Super Bowl):
September 7, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Must…avoid…gloating. Actually, that’s a shitty way to lose a season. And football is boring.
September 7, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Not a moment too soon. . .
September 7, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Remember, according to New England sports fan rules, this is the worst thing that has ever happened to anybody. No other pain and disappointment can compare with this. Immediately put out of your mind the Celtics and Redsox. There is no more tortured sports fan than the New England sports fan. Your grandpappy, etc.
September 7, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Put in Airwolf, coach!
September 7, 2008 at 8:51 pm
No, “according to New England sports fan rules,” this is the inevitable result of a bizarre and unnatural period of success. One can only hope that the Gods of Punishment are content to feast on Brady’s ACL, Manny’s ego, and nothing further. Not exactly likely, perhaps.
September 7, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Vinny Testaverde on line three. I’m sure they’ll figure out how to get a veteran in there. I would think that NE would have a better shot at developing a solid back-up or in lieu of that have a veteran available on the roster. Every team needs two of everything. The Bills depth will serve them this year. We didn’t even need Jason Peters this week, and he’ll be back soon. Special Teams will win you six games a year, but the Bills also have a seven-eight man DL rotation and five CBs that rotate, two free safeties, in and out, and a Donte Whitner, to go with five legit linebackers. The WRs aren’t much past Lee Evans but Hardy and Stevie Johnson are comers. Robert Royal feels like he’s being questioned, he’s responding, they have no TE depth, which is a problem considering their offensive scheme. Lynch and Freddie Jackson are 4.0 ypc avg backs this year.The OL is deep at tackle and has the right combination of youth and experience avg 28 years-old.
Seattle was a West Coast team traveling East to play the early game. The fact that Buffalo was a one-point favorite when most people would think Seattle would be favored was a strong indicator that the bookies saw a wrinkle that lead them to believe that they would win, per Dr. Z at SI. If you look at next weeks schedule and predict the line, if the line comes in off three or more points for the team you felt was the dog, the book knows something you don’t, (usually.) Seattle didn’t have their best offensive unit out there, and Edwards had his usual accuracy issues. Jauron squeezes everything out of this team. The guys Marv Levy drafted are coming through.
Tomorrow I like Oakland and Minnesota for all the wrong reasons, so go with Denver and Green Bay, (why are the Packers favored, banged up and no Favre? See…) Denver is safer because Cutler is known and Russell is an unknown plus McFadden keeps running into his blockers and tackling himself, give the ball to Michael Bush already. I do know that Denver’s receivers are shady, and Javon Walker is mad. As far as the Vikings go, I recognize they lost 34-0 at Lambeau last year, but the Vikes are bringing Jared Allen with The Williams boy this time. The line is shady, and tells me that the Pack is going to win, because as bad as Jackson has been, young guys get better and he had a good pre-season at QB.
September 8, 2008 at 12:55 am
Football is nothing but rugby for sissies.
September 8, 2008 at 5:19 am
Nothing less than the Patriots deserve for wearing white at home.
OOOH, it’s hot! Let’s make the other team wear colors because it’ll absorb .06% more heat than white.
Strategy via pussification. What are the Patriots, Democrats?
September 8, 2008 at 5:35 am
Did the fans from Boston throw rocks at the Kansas City team bus afterwards?
As for me, I can’t decide who I want demystified more this season: Belichick (if they have a terrible season) or Brady (if they have a good season).
September 8, 2008 at 5:52 am
ACL. that sucks, and I’m very far from being a member of the National Tom Brady Love Association. And this has to be in part because Brady was somewhat physically unready. Belichick made a gamble and lost badly.
I won’t say the Patriots have character, since they have Randy Moss, but they do have grit, and they have a smart and ruthless coach. Let’s see if he has a contingency plan.
September 8, 2008 at 6:05 am
Football is nothing but rugby for sissies.
You keep saying that word – I don’t think it word means what you think it means.
September 8, 2008 at 6:55 am
Anybody have VIDEO of the injury? I gather the Pats have lots of video. Lots and lots of video. Of other teams, anyway…
September 8, 2008 at 6:58 am
Don’t worry, Chris Simms will make everything better.
September 8, 2008 at 7:27 am
Any day know Chris Simms will lead Texas to that promised national championship
Chris Simms-better or worse than Brian Griese? I’m going worse.
September 8, 2008 at 7:31 am
I don’t know… presumably you saw the video of Brady getting hit? He’d be in the hospital right now even if he’d been 100%.
September 8, 2008 at 7:36 am
I think the theory behind this being the result of a Belichick gamble is that, were he fully healthy, Brady would never have had his knee so straight when he got hit.
September 8, 2008 at 7:55 am
He will be carried to football Valhalla in a giant hot tub by Brazilian supermodels.
September 8, 2008 at 8:09 am
I think it’s an ESPN plot to get Brett Favre into the playoffs one more time.
September 8, 2008 at 9:21 am
Speaking of Randy Moss, with a competent quarterback out of the picture, how long before Moss reverts to the whiny ass punk who played in Oakland?
September 8, 2008 at 9:30 am
Kevin O’Connell, 3rd rounder out of SDSU this year – 6’6″, fast, and, it is claimed, the strongest arm on the Patriots team. Weirder things have happened.
I hate to say it, but the season just got a lot more interesting. Any team could win the AFC East – ok, not Miami, but any real team. The Colts look horrible. The Chargers look horrible. There’s apparently this thing called ‘the NFC’, too, and I heard they might play football there these days. It’s a whole new world.
I have to go sob now.
September 8, 2008 at 9:50 am
Pele’TOUCHE’
September 8, 2008 at 9:53 am
osi umenyiora is a better and more important player than brady. sorry. ’tis true. and the gints are going to have to survive without him.
i predict the giants will, because as they showed last year man for man, player for player, they are a better team than the patriots, who were overly reliant on the Great Man Theory of history (belichick a marxist?). the patriots…they are going to eat a big heaping pile of shit.
September 8, 2008 at 10:03 am
Great Man theory of history is not Marx in the least; it is a kind of Romantic after the fact post Hegelian thingy, like Weber maybe.
September 8, 2008 at 10:08 am
The Patriots will never recover from when their marquis quarterback goes down and is replaced by a backup quarterback.
oh wait..
September 8, 2008 at 10:29 am
I’m not a phys. guy, but a weak right foot causes the left leg to be favored, keeping it stiffer than it ought to be, which is halfway to an ACL right there. Hence my suspicion.
September 8, 2008 at 10:38 am
Remember the good ole days when every team with a star QB also had a very good backup? Bart Starr, Zeke Bartkowski; Johnny Unitas, Earl Morrall; Fran Tarkenton, Jack Kemp; Ken Stabler, George Blanda? Too important to wrap your whole season around one guy.
September 8, 2008 at 10:47 am
osi umenyiora is a better and more important player than brady. sorry. ’tis true….the patriots…they are going to eat a big heaping pile of shit.
So, Brady is not that important or good thus the Pats are now doomed because they lost such a good and important player?
September 8, 2008 at 11:04 am
The Patriots will never recover from when their marquis quarterback goes down and is replaced by a backup quarterback.
oh wait…
Perhaps. PSG never quite got over the loss of de Sade.
September 8, 2008 at 11:19 am
no, curv3y one, it merely highlights how much the gints are a TEAM that can overcome the loss of even their best player, whereas the patriots are a bunch of poseurs.
for some reason.
really, on a day the polls are this bad what the hell else is there to talk about?
September 8, 2008 at 11:25 am
That still doesn’t make any sense RG.
Wake me when the Gints win two more Super Bowls with their ‘best player’.
September 8, 2008 at 11:31 am
really, on a day the polls are this bad what the hell else is there to talk about?
Word.
September 8, 2008 at 12:27 pm
As an actual NE sports fan (as opposed to those who apparently believe they can read the minds of NE sports fans), thoughts:
1. This is not “the worst thing that ever happened to anyone.” Its not even the worst thing that’s happened to Patriots fans in the last two meaningful games the Patriots played.
2. I don’t think NE sports fans still regard themselves as the most tortured fanbase. Or, really, even close to that. I suppose you could say that we think “we suffered, and we deserve our success” but really, 3 Super Bowl wins, 2 Sox WS wins, and a NBA finals win, all since 2001…our cups runneth over. I think most fans get that.
3. I appear to be in the minority (Deion: stick a fork in them, they’re done), but with their apparently weak schedule, good running backs, great receivers, and strongish defense (CBs worry me, and the LB core has a combo of too young [Mayo] and too old [Bruschi]), I still see the Patriots as a potential playoff team. Although at 10-6 rather than 14-2 or something. Especially since they have a better record than the Chargers or Colts. I can’t really see them making the SB, but I suppose stranger things have happened.
4. The last time a Patriots star QB went down, no one expected his backup—a guy who’d split time at college—to save the season. But that turned out OK.
September 8, 2008 at 1:32 pm
JoshA:
Of course you speak the truth. But don’t expect that the hatahs will agree. They have too much vested in the hate.
I don’t #4 happening because Cassel is iffy (although I don’t know how Brady looked in the Pats 2001 pre-season, that would be good to know), but I’m with you on 3. In a sense, it will be cool to support the now-underdog team that has something to prove. Whether its sex, politics or football, spite is a good motivator.
And they have tons of talent on both sides of the ball.
Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien and Trent Dilfer won Super Bowls, after all. So we’ll see how it shapes up.
September 8, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Of course you speak the truth. But don’t expect that the hatahs will agree. They have too much vested in the hate.
Yeah, I figure, if people can express their deep-seated insecurities through their watered-down, nigh-illiterate Kissing Suzy Kolber ripoffs, more power to ‘em. Better than working out their issues by voting Republican.
September 8, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Herr Dr. Prof. is, as always correct on the relative merits of the major oval-ball codes.
Pelé @11, don’t be deliberately obtuse. Obviously the Professor is making an effort to speak American. Look, I love football (as opposed to “football”), but if you continue being bolshie in this vein I shall have no option but to point out that the game is fatally marred by, among other things, the existence of the Italian national 11.
September 8, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Hey, the Pats are still undefeated, right?
September 8, 2008 at 5:24 pm
“I hate to say it, but the season just got a lot more interesting.”
Now you know what is was like both before and after Michael Jordan retired. Only the best teams made the games competitive, otherwise 20+ point win.
It wasn’t that, though. That alone would’ve been okay (and the playoffs were always fun). It was the fact that every last person you’d never expect suddenly had become a huge Bulls fan, from your ninety year-old granny to that schmuck down the street who always claimed that sports are boring. Finally started watching again after he retired. Getting blown out by 20 never felt so right…
My condolences on your loss…
September 8, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Oh, almost forgot: BEARS!
C’mon. Probably gonna be the high point of our season…
(Bears!)
September 8, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Pleeese take Chris Simms. I’ll even give you $5.00 towards his salary.
Go Bucs!
September 8, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Of course you speak the truth. But don’t expect that the hatahs will agree.
Admittedly, much of my impression of NE fans comes from Bill Simmons, the all-time master of “I invented suffering”, even in the midst of unprecedented success. Plus he’s a shitty writer.
So okay, I can admit that I over-generalized. Still, the next time NE suffers a championship drought of over 3 years, you just know all of the moaning is gonna come back, full force.
September 8, 2008 at 10:39 pm
I think Josh Johnson of U of San Diego would be a better bet then SDSU’s O’Connell, but the Pats worked out both. They had that kid from LSU for a longtime, (Lorenzen?, but not the hefty lefty) as a development project, reminded me of J-Russell, but I guess he didn’t work out. I’m sure he’s available. The thing with Brady out of the Big 10, is that the Big 10 back then was a NFL system league, the Mountain West is not. We shall see.
September 8, 2008 at 10:45 pm
The polls aren’t that bad.
http://electoralmap.net/index.php
FUCK RASMUSSEN.It’s a robo-poll.
http://www.forecastingprinciples.com/PollyVote/
I think McCain has revealed his max, 47-49. Nothing else has changed. The fact remains, unless Ohio goes for Obama, which is unlikely it seems, we’ll have to cobble some states like CO,NV,NM,IA, and maybe even North Dakota, (which would take the cake.)
http://www.forecastingprinciples.com/PollyVote/
September 8, 2008 at 11:07 pm
18 and 1 is pretty good.
September 8, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I won’t say the Patriots have character, since they have Randy Moss, but they do have grit, and they have a smart and ruthless coach. Let’s see if he has a contingency plan.
I plan on cheating more.
September 9, 2008 at 2:41 am
Palin’s coattails have brought Ted Stevens back from the dead.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/senate/ak/alaska_senate-562.html
In one month is went from Begich between 47-50 to Stevens’ 37, then 45, and now Stevens is up 49-46. Unbelievable.
September 9, 2008 at 6:44 am
Besides, everyone knows that Aussie Rules football ROOLZ. Everything else is the playtime of little boys.
September 9, 2008 at 9:44 am
See, this is what happens when you cheat. Not to mention Belichek’s awfulness. Oh, & the Packers won, as did the Jets. Suck. On. That.
P.S. It is too bad that a season has to end like that, but the coach took Brady off the injured list for the first time in 50 plus weeks. Who’d a thunk?
September 9, 2008 at 10:02 am
See, this is what happens when you cheat.
Uh, no. This is what happens when you don’t cheat. This idiotic idea of karma or divine retribution guiding the nickle back to Brady’s knee completely glides over the fact that if the Pats had simply cheated, Brady would have been able to know — via secret spycams — to side step the guy who was going after his knee and, presto! 19-0 here we come.
At this point only liberals, and the soon to be left-out-of-the-evolutionary-blueprint-types, think cheating is bad.
The mere existence of the GOP past Nixon, nevermind Reagan, the Bushies, Dick Cheney and John McCain — is proof that neither karma nor divine retribution has anything at all to do with cheaters.
September 9, 2008 at 11:17 am
Brady would have been able to know — via secret spycams — to side step the guy who was going after his knee and, presto! 18-1 here we come
There, fixed that for ya.
September 9, 2008 at 11:49 am
Sorry Mercury Morris. That was this year’s projection, pre-injury.
What really scares me now is if somehow the Jets look at tape to gain clues about the Pats blitzing schemes! That would be against all known sportsmanship rules.
September 9, 2008 at 1:00 pm
That was this year’s projection, pre-injury
I was offering this year’s eventuality, pre-injury.
September 9, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I love it when bad things happen to football players I hate. This ranks right up there with Michael Irving getting his neck broken in veteran stadium.
September 9, 2008 at 6:21 pm
To Tom Brady, I say: “Damn that sucks, dude.”
To that cheating rat bastard Belichek, and the obnoxious core of New England fans (many of whom undoubtedly became “Die Hard Fans” right about the time Adam Vinatieri kicked the game winner against the Rams in the Super Bowl):
Hahahahaha SUCK ON THIS.
September 10, 2008 at 11:35 am
Chris Simms-better or worse than Brian Griese? I’m going worse.
Huh? I thought they were the same guy.
September 11, 2008 at 5:37 pm
patriots werent going anywhere anyway with their aging defense.
everyone but giants fans know the giants were totally lucky. just like vs. buffalo so many years ago.
September 11, 2008 at 8:34 pm
The Patriots twice won the Superbowl with the two-headed monster of Antoine Smith and Kevin Faulk.
Cassell handled himself well. We’ll just have to see.