Chad Myers, CNN’s meteorologist, makes a bid for a Bailey:
CNN Meteorologist Chad Myers had never bought into the notion that man can alter the climate and the Vegas snowstorm didn’t impact his opinion. Myers, an American Meteorological Society certified meteorologist, explained on CNN’s Dec. 18 “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that the whole idea is arrogant and mankind was in danger of dying from other natural events more so than global warming.
“You know, to think that we could affect weather all that much is pretty arrogant,” Myers said. “Mother Nature is so big, the world is so big, the oceans are so big – I think we’re going to die from a lack of fresh water or we’re going to die from ocean acidification before we die from global warming, for sure.”
Wow. That’s just heaps of stupid poured atop a mountain made of dumb.
According to Myers, it’s arrogant to think that man could affect something as big as the weather or the oceans by virtue of our carbon dioxide output. Besides, sneers Myers, we’ll probably die first because of what our carbon dioxide output is doing to the oceans
. Which are so big that it would be arrogant to think we could affect them.
You know, we’ll deserve what we get in terms of nature’s wrath.
Also, for the record, Lou Dobbs is a First Class, A Number 1 Douchebag. Someone should Curly Jefferson his ass.
December 19, 2008 at 10:55 am
I assume that, by the term “a Bailey,” you refer to the illustrious Ronald Bailey, reactionary tool, global warming denier par excellence and corporate whore on the staff of the fringe extremist rag, Reason. If so, well done.
December 19, 2008 at 11:07 am
It works on many levels, apparently.
December 19, 2008 at 11:12 am
I believe the Kippies have a new category.
December 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Lordy, I’m old. Get me a link to the slang dictionary – what the hell is a curly jefferson?
December 19, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Wow… Just… Wow.
Is this guy aware that the oceans are (a) 5 orders of magnitude more voluminous than the atmosphere and (b) staggeringly more dense? The sheer idea that there could be enough CO2 to affect the oceans without significantly altering the atmosphere it is coming from is simply breathtaking.
December 19, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Sounds like Myers has kebernet’s vote.
December 19, 2008 at 1:55 pm
So Myers thinks the ocean may acidify because of what, exactly? Could it be…….GLOBAL WARMING?
December 19, 2008 at 2:21 pm
mankind was in danger of dying from other natural events more so than global warming
It depresses me beyond belief that a “journalist” can compose a clause this goddamned clumsy and still pick up a paycheck.
December 19, 2008 at 3:39 pm
mmmm. Bailey’s; soft and creamy beige
December 19, 2008 at 4:00 pm
the oceans are (a) 5 orders of magnitude more voluminous than the atmosphere
I’m having trouble with this one…
December 19, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Yeah, CO2 turn water into dangerous poison. We call it carbonic acid, it is SO very dangerous. These peoples are fulz to deny teh G|034| \\4rminx. Witness my awesome proof:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002890.htm
AND
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenol
I can’t believe this stuff is in SODA POP! New York State shouldn’t just tax the stuff, they should just BAN it!!!
Man I hate retarded people…
December 19, 2008 at 6:54 pm
You know, Myers, and USDA Prime assh*les like Dobbs deserve what they get in terms of nature’s wrath, unfortunately, the rest of us are gonna get it, as well..
Fixed.
December 19, 2008 at 6:55 pm
mostly…
December 19, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Eschewing biting irony and risking simple serious logic:
The fact that we’re facing an energy crisis based on our ruthlessly greedy and short-sighted attempt to find and burn all the fossil fuels we can in as short a time as possible (it’s called *growth*) seems somehow related to the idea that said fossil fuels produce byproducts that may well add to Terra’s known propensity for catastrophic climate upheaval on its own without our even trying to help.
Or, as my AA sponsor said in ages past (lemme feel the love for that white-trash street cred, y’all!):
“The way I see it, kenmeer, your life is more than capable of fucking itself up on its own without your help. Just try and stay sober enough to deal with that and you just might make it.”
So let’s assume that, with or without our “help”, Terra decides to alter the weather in a manner decidedly unhelpful for the prosperous survival of 6 billion and counting homo sapiens, doing so while we run out of the substance that, it is argued by the more learned among us, is exacerbating Terran weather’s known volatility.
Would that not be reason enough to attempt a major overhaul of our energy platform to one we can a) rely on for the centuries through which such weather shifts are known to extend and b) tend to exacerbate such weather whims less than more?
Especially since ANY attempts to survive natural OR anthropocentric climate upheaval will require lots of ENERGY?!?!?
As they say on the internet: just sayin’.
December 19, 2008 at 7:33 pm
I believe a Bailey’s-based energy platform might prevail in the current intellectual climate.
December 19, 2008 at 7:42 pm
If global warming is so real then why do people keep ice in the freezer? Huh? Your freezer’s part of the globe too, right? Amirite?
December 19, 2008 at 8:56 pm
A “Bailey,” that’s awesome!
December 19, 2008 at 11:07 pm
So Myers thinks the ocean may acidify because of what, exactly? Could it be…….GLOBAL WARMING?
Actually, the way I heard it, ocean acidification is caused directly by CO2 emissions, not by global warming (which is also caused by CO2 emissions).
December 20, 2008 at 6:45 am
Well, “AGW is arrogant!” is the “Oh say can you see” of Liberal Fascism.
Also, you missed the part about how Rob Marciano “recanted” about global warming. Must have been the handiwork of General Yuri Sergeyevich Zamenov.
December 20, 2008 at 7:46 am
It depresses me beyond belief that a “journalist” can compose a clause this goddamned clumsy and still pick up a paycheck.
First of all, this guy is not a journalist, he’s a meteorologist. Second of all, this wasn’t something he wrote, it was something he said on the Lou Dobbs show.
December 21, 2008 at 1:20 am
I say, fuck it, let’s tax the one thing that provides our dvds, dvrs, and (damn luddites) vcrs the one thing they need to function into bankruptcy (or better yet) non-existance. I’m talking of course about the biggest CO2 producers on the planet; coal powered power plants, man, they are just plain evil. Exhaleing toxic CO2… We need to replace them with proven energy generators like windmills, and hydro-thermic energies (of cousin, only in places where they actually produce energy)… Teh Yeah, only by using provable proven energy sources like wind, geo-thermal, and hydro can we cast off the yoke of energy dependence that the MAN has foisted upon us.
I will hear no talk of atom splitting nonsense, for we all know that is the most poisonousess of all CO2 producing BS the MAn has foisted upon the folks of Red pesantisuasion (yes, I made the word up, and now it is in the lexicon); plust I really don’t like it ‘cuz they do. SO THERE. I dare you to challenge my awesomeness with links and supporting nevidence…
Apropos of nothing, “Net Evidence” seems to leet (excuse me |33t) speak of the same thing as “No (or Never) Evidence” anyhow, I am merely a bystander listening to this fun stuff. That I throw an egg or two from time to time, doesn’t mean that in your universe (or effen a small corner of mine) that you don’t have a point… Small though it may be, we are altar all inclusive….
December 21, 2008 at 11:36 am
“the oceans are (a) 5 orders of magnitude more voluminous than the atmosphere”
“I’m having trouble with this one…”
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You should–the oceans actually have less volume than the atmosphere, but more mass. The average pressure at the bottom of the ocean is 500-1000 atmospheres (the average pressure at the bottom of the atmosphere being, of course 1 atmosphere). So there is a difference of 2-3 orders of magnitude (not 5) in mass. But that’s probably way more information than anyone really wanted.
December 21, 2008 at 3:32 pm
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December 22, 2008 at 8:51 am
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December 22, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Anyhoo, the NOTION also that we will die sooner yet from a lack of freshwater because… because maybe humans will have used up all the earth’s freshwater aquifers? But ,no WAY can human affect the “environment”, that’s just arrogance — sheesh!
What is that phrase again, when you directly and without any intermediate sentences contradict yourself?
As far as oceans and atmosphere. Yawell each mole of air occupies 22.4 liters at STP. Densities may vary up to 100 miles and down 2-5 miles or so. One mole of water is 18 mls. So give or take 3/5 of 3 miles is about 2+ miles times 4pi R^2 . Same deal times roughly 40 miles for air. I get ~2.5/40 x 2240/1.8 for the ratio of ocean mass to air mass.
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December 26, 2008 at 3:04 pm
According to Myers, it’s arrogant to think that man could affect something as big as the weather or the oceans by virtue of our carbon dioxide output.
Anybody who thinks that small amounts of a chemical cannot profoundly affect the behaviour of a complex biophysical system should try ingesting a few milligrams of nice fresh polonium, and then report back to us, if they still can.
December 27, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Re Myers, a cubic kilometer of coal is roughly a gigaton of carbon (solid anthracite coal density is about 1500 kg / cubic meter, coal > 50% carbon). We put very roughly the equivalent of 6 of these kilometer coal cubes (6 gigatons carbon, about 20GT CO2) per year into the atmosphere. Every year.
..few milligrams of nice fresh polonium
Median lethal dose (by ingestion) is approximately 0.1 microgram. (From the cornucopia of knowledge (and sometimes, made-up-facts), wikipedia)
December 29, 2008 at 4:27 pm
neddie jingo, if mankind dies from acidic oceans, we can’t be revived even with a +25 resurrect species scroll.
So the text is correct as it stands. While mankind would die out from global warming, it would not be as extinct as it would be if the cause of mankind dying out was “other causes.”
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January 22, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Replace “affect weather” to “control weather” in Chad Myer’s comments and the statement might make more sense. (is this guy like “Brick” the weatherman in the movie Anchorman?) Indeed the variability (and frequency) of intense weather is most likely attributed to a long term destabilization of the ocean/atmospheric coupling. Splitting hairs about fluid dynamics will get you no where. Also, Carbonic Acid via CO2 input (re: global warming) same molecule different effect is indeed having profound impact on coral reefs, and many other calcifying organisms in the oceans. BTW most of the world’s CO2 is sequestered by phytoplankton and chlorophyll containing microorganisms like bacterioplankton. Remember too that while weathermen and weatherwomen (MEATeORALologists) pray to their Doppler Radar gods, the first person to measure carbon dioxide in the atmosphere on a continuous basis AND discover the monotonic rise in CO2 levels was an Oceanographer from Scripps ;o)
http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/globalchange/keeling_curve/01.html
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