I’m back:
Since the election, I – and I am sure I am not alone here – have been suffering from a serious case of pony fatigue. Back in my day, some piddling perjury charge against a Cheney lackey was cause for wild celebration. Now, every day brings an utter reversal of some atrocious Bush policy, today delegitimizing entire classes of precedent with a wave of his hand, and I can’t even be bothered to keep track on my Nü Media internet web-log. The Republicans are politically and ideologically vanquished, in disorderly retreat, and at present are trying to unite around a positive and forward-looking agenda of impeaching Earl Warren. I give it 6 months before they break out the giant papier-mâché protest puppets. Good times, man, good times. I will never vote for a white President again.
But I am disturbed from my pony stupor. Dahlia Lithwick lays out some of the possible rationales for Obama’s seeming unwillingness to reverse the expansively secretive Bush approach in Global War On Whatever civil liberties cases. She neglects to consider the obvious one, of course, which is that preserving these precedents will make it that much easier when it comes time to dissappear gun-owners and surrender the USA to The People’s Homoslamic Republic of Afro-Aztlan. Allahu Eric Estrada!
There is, additionally, the diplomatic problem. The idea that the US shipped prisoners to torture facilities in foreign countries without the active complicity of the governments of those countries is not credible. The idea that the US could “render” prisoners out of and through a dozen close European allies without their active cooperation is similarly not credible. It is easy to imagine the heartburn that could develop if foreign leaders found themselves publicly embarrassed for being cooperative with the US government. The Bush administration made a big deal of its ‘unilateralism’, but they were always careful to assemble Coalitions of the Willing, making any legal move as diplomatically dangerous as possible, and implicating as many others as possible in their actions.
Another likely reason: it would be very, very difficult to limit any thorough investigation of Bush-era “rendition” and torture to Bush administration officials. I have enormous respect for the breadth and depth of Sen. Jay Rockefeller’s ignorance and stupidity, but the idea that he – or other Democratic worthies – were completely out of the loop here is just not credible. And, specious or not, discussion of the similarities between Clinton-era policies, the Obama approach, and the Bush torture regime would not reflect well on current denizens of the Executive branch. I’m not saying Jane Harman personally ran the waterboard or that Richard Clarke had any actual input in objectionable Bush policies. But, if people started really digging, it could look bad.
Then again, I’m not in any position to say they weren’t, either, as the true story has never been revealed. As far as I actually know, Sen. Jay Rockefeller owns a pair of Osama nipple clamps and spent every evening since November ’01 jacking off to a closed circuit feed of “enhanced interrogations” from Gitmo. If these folks are hoping to avoid embarrassment, it’s a bit late – the stink is already all over you. The best thing to do now is come clean. The alternative is to leave the extent your involvement to my imagination, and, after 8 years of this goddamned insane evil motherfucking bullshit, my imagination isn’t feeling very generous.
Right after the election, I pegged the chance that we’d ever have a real accounting of the Bush torture/wiretapping/US attorney firings/God-knows-what-else shannanigans at about 15%. Today, despite Obama’s flip-floppy ideas about transparency, I’ll be damned if I don’t put it at about even money. Part of the reason is that some of the above-mentioned Democratic worthies actually – surprisingly – appear willing to fight for a full investigation. Part of the reason is Obama’s generally-encouraging record leads me to the audacious hope that the cases Lithwick cites represent the exception, rather than the trend. And part of the reason is – let’s be honest here – I haven’t had full night’s sleep in 2 months, and I am perhaps a teensy bit drunk. But, if you all are going to do it, now’s the time. There’s no guarantee that, in 6 months, you will be riding as high, or the Republicans will be so ineffectual. For the country, for yourselves, for the victims, please do the right thing.
March 10, 2009 at 4:07 am
Like any good intervention, this one has been put off by those most in need of help for a long, long time. If we are going to salvage anything from the wreck of the Minnow we are going to have to start by agreeing that the captains who got us here aren’t allowed to drive ever again, and it’s going to have to be explained with talking dinosaurs and pretty girls for the benefit of the passengers. Oh, and we need to nationalize the Howells.
March 10, 2009 at 5:14 am
I’m surprised you didn’t weigh in on the George Will thing, Editors.
March 10, 2009 at 5:40 am
Oh yeah, the editors, you’re back ?
I say “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHSJFqC7ek0″
March 10, 2009 at 7:00 am
Feel the hope!
March 10, 2009 at 8:38 am
Very happy to hear your shrill voice again, A.
March 10, 2009 at 9:47 am
we need a new pony metric. i’m jonesing my ass off for fresh pony meat.
March 10, 2009 at 10:24 am
“I haven’t had full night’s sleep in 2 months”
Had that baby then, eh? Congrats!
March 10, 2009 at 11:23 am
Sleep deprivation is an insidious torture technique. Li’l Editor must be thoroughly investigated.
(And ticking Diapers of Mass Destruction are no excuse – who does he think he is, Jack Bauer?)
March 10, 2009 at 12:41 pm
As far as I actually know, Sen. Jay Rockefeller owns a pair of Osama nipple clamps and spent every evening since November ‘01 jacking off to a closed circuit feed of “enhanced interrogations” from Gitmo.
To borrow your odds, even money.
March 10, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Watching the GOP twisting in the wind does not get old. At. All. (Unlike using periods. For. Emphasis.)
I thought the Palin/McCain post-election feud was as much as I could hope for, but the Limbaugh/Gingrich/Steele feud almost makes me get up faster in the morning.
Rove and Meiers subpoenas and Yoo getting reprimanded — non-stop Fitzmas.
March 10, 2009 at 4:46 pm
don’t ever leave us again. we are sad, and lonely.
if you go on hiatus again i will personally get five of my dumb friends to blog about how smart gregg easterbrook is. that is a threat for real.
March 10, 2009 at 5:33 pm
“I will never vote for a white President again” may be the funniest thing you’ve ever written.
March 10, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Just going to link this here for anyone out there that wants to get involved.
Adding, having kids is at odds with global glorious revolution, The Editors. I expected better from you.
March 10, 2009 at 7:21 pm
We want e-z.
March 10, 2009 at 7:23 pm
This is just like the plot to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
March 10, 2009 at 7:31 pm
What about the South African model for its Truth and Reconciliation Commission? Is that a plausible position, because we’re only going to get half of what we want. That’s due to systemic failure, but that’s the truth, we have to make a deal on this because of the nature of our government, that might be the hardest line of all.
March 10, 2009 at 7:38 pm
don’t ever leave us again. we are sad, and lonely.
Not a big curv3ball fan, eh?
On another note, please forgive my cultural retardation, but that song was cool, and I have no idea who did it.
March 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm
That song was cool. Nice beats.
March 10, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I’m surprised you didn’t weigh in on the George Will thing, Editors.
I was tempted, but busy. It’ll come around again.
On another note, please forgive my cultural retardation, but that song was cool, and I have no idea who did it.
Mark Morrison. He’s an idiot, but that song is pretty cool.
March 10, 2009 at 11:55 pm
South African model for its Truth and Reconciliation
We already have this in the form of leniency for testimony against bigger targets. We’re a bigger country and this crime is smaller, we don’t need to compromise.
March 11, 2009 at 12:13 am
Everything in a democratic republic is a compromise due to intrenched countervailing forces and the confluence of dichotomous interests. In order to get the most bang for your buck, and then move on, is to have one round of t and r and zero tolerance from a point on. Otherwise you send them to the International Criminal Court, this would, could incite unintended consequences that don’t reduce, but magnify the problem.
This action requires political will, if it’s there then do it, if not, you cannot because you will create more problems for yourself. I don’t see how you pass legislation, even with the current chemistry of the Congress, without getting to grips with certain political truths about how political identity and other factors put a hold on good government. I don’t like it either. This government is not a fast government, it’s designed to be slow, and to reduce drastic change/action. The courts are the exception, but the checks and balances are in full effect. The power of the executive needs to be reigned in, but power, once released, doesn’t want to get back in the bottle. So this President must give away the new powers Bush granted himself, and all the other powers, through the years, that the executive “took” because neither the Congress nor the Courts could/would take it away/enforce the law.
That’s why you have to deal.
March 11, 2009 at 12:40 am
If you notice the Civil Rights Movement was implemented in stages over a long period of time, I think that’s How Health Care reform might go. Education reform as well. Obama is going to find that he needed to get innovative on taking the money out of politics first, because the corporations will help Obama by installing bad bugs in the legislation. Oh, sure, they’re all smiles and cigars now, but they aren’t going to help themselves out of a billions dollar industry.
March 11, 2009 at 9:18 am
Ya know, for an Obamabot, your not very good at using Teh Google:
From a href=”http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/258258″>La Nation
“Now, however, comes the news that Pelosi knew as early as 2002 that the U.S. was using waterboarding and other torture techniques and, far from objecting, appears to have cheered the tactics on.”
Not that there is the slightest, faintest, hint of chance of any of these criminals ever being tried for their crimes, But don’t let that interfere with pwoggie-bloggie masturbatory fantasies or anything.
March 11, 2009 at 10:25 am
I curse The Editors. My kitty woke me up and my brain started RETURN OF THE CAT.
March 11, 2009 at 10:59 am
But don’t let that interfere with pwoggie-bloggie masturbatory fantasies or anything
Someone’s aroused!
March 11, 2009 at 11:32 am
Not a bad spoof-troll: “Look at me, I’m a GOP idiot who can’t read!”