While the previous posts’ title titilated the imagination of many a reader, stoking an expectation that there would be some form of obituary for Irving Kristol in the post that followed (perhaps a eulogy by Keyboard Kommando?), alas, there was none.
So now, although a tad late, allow me to pass along this paltry bit of consolation courtesy of the Demonic Shakira Worshipper hisdamnself:
Which brings me to this charming vignette, courtesy of blog commenter Harry Hopkins:
“I remember back in the late 1990s, when Ira Katznelson, an eminent political scientist at Columbia, came to deliver a guest lecture. Prof. Katznelson described a lunch he had with Irving Kristol during the first Bush administration.
“The talk turned to William Kristol, then Dan Quayle’s chief of staff, and how he got his start in politics. Irving recalled how he talked to his friend Harvey Mansfield at Harvard, who secured William a place there as both an undergrad and graduate student; how he talked to Pat Moynihan, then Nixon’s domestic policy adviser, and got William an internship at the White House; how he talked to friends at the RNC [Republican National Committee] and secured a job for William after he got his Harvard Ph.D.; and how he arranged with still more friends for William to teach at Penn and the Kennedy School of Government.
“With that, Prof. Katznelson recalled, he then asked Irving what he thought of affirmative action. ‘I oppose it,’ Irving replied. ‘It subverts meritocracy.’ “
Thanks Irving. Awesome.*
Speaking of making meritocracies work for you, remember kids, follow these simple lessons and you will rise fast in the ranks on your way to becoming a super serious chin stroking elder statesman foreign policy elite (because you earned it!):
1. Being “strong” on a given foreign policy subject is directly proportional to your willingness to blow people/things up, with as little hesitation as possible. Considering any other option betrays your weakness, indecision and inner Frenchman. Further, refusing to bomb a given country is always the equivalent of Chamberlain appeasing Hitler and such reticence will have similar results. Always.
As a corollary, supporting a disastrous war will always earn you more credibility than opposing a disastrous war. You probably opposed it for the wrong reasons, and would oppose the next catastrophe based on the same faulty reasoning. Better stick with the guy with the happy trigger finger. Just to be safe.
2. Victory can never be achieved by withdrawing troops, no matter what. Escalation, or continuing an occupation, are themselves perpetual victory. There is no point at which costs of an occupation outweigh the benefits. What matters is that other countries/populations realize that no one can ever make us leave a given conflict. Without that level of respect, we are doomed.
As a corollary: the only reason any conflict is ever unwinnable is because of lack of political will (ie traitorous dissenters on the home front weaken our spirit).
3. If there is an ongoing conflict involving US troops and it’s not going well, the answer is always send more. There is literally no problem that more troops can’t solve.
4. If there is an ongoing conflict NOT involving US troops, the answer is always send US troops. Bonus points if you can think of new and unique justifications to send troops into combat, such as to escort aid after a natural disaster.
5. Diplomacy is always weak. Merely meeting with a foreign regime is itself a gift of enormous value for the lucky regime. Argue that it will bolster the legitimacy and popularity of the foreign regime even if our leaders are extremely unpopular with the applicable population.
As a general rule, don’t give away your precious bodily fluids celluloid images for the mere possibility of reaching a negotiated settlement when you can bomb them into compliance instead (See #1 above).
6. The military budget must never be cut. Cutting it even slightly will leave the US instantly and completely vulnerable to the invading [INSERT ENEMY DU JOUR] hordes. The proper level of spending should be equal to, or greater than, the rest of the world combined. Because what if the rest of the world teamed up on us? What would we do then?
7. There are unlimited troops for unlimited missions. Never let logistics or pesky facts about actual available troops interfere with advocacy for more and better wars. Serious people don’t let such concerns interfere with being strong on a given policy.
8. Play for spite whenever possible, think of the world of international relations as a zero sum game, and treat every conflict as an existential crisis and/or the “Greatest Challenge of Our Time.”
9. Never criticize: Israel, any actions of US troops, the size of the military budget or any active or retired general.
10. Never question our motives, or suggest something unseemly. We are always and only invading other countries to help them, out of a selfless magnanimity. What do we stand to gain? Flowers and candies only. That is our motivating force.
11. Never suggest that our foreign policy choices lead to resentment/backlash or anti-Americanism. People are just jealous or evil. Some may also be brainwashed or insufficiently grasp the fact that we’re here to help.
12. Brutal dictators that support our policies are moderate, enlightened reformers slowly implementing democracy for their adoring people. Brutal dictators that don’t support our policies are dangerous extremists, and each the next Hitler (regardless of military strength) who need to be toppled for the sake of their long suffering people.
And so on.
(as inspired by)
(* This minor correction only bolsters my point. Or something.)
September 22, 2009 at 10:21 am
“Better stick with the guy with the happy trigger finger. ”
It’s like the Great One says “You miss 100% of the shots that you don’t take.”
Hockey and war are fucking IDENTICAL.
September 22, 2009 at 2:48 pm
4. If there is an ongoing conflict NOT involving US troops, the answer is always send US troops.
This rule invalid if president is a Democrat. See Clinton, Bill and Former Yugoslavia.
Never criticize: Israel, any actions of US troops, the size of the military budget or any active or retired general.
This rule invalid under following conditions:
A. General in question suggests mission requires more troops and money than armchair-general neocon would like. (See Shinseki.)
B. General in question is considering or actually is running for president as a Democrat.
C. General in question says even slightly unkind things about former Republican president and/or vice president. (Also if general criticizes previous policies of Republican administration.)
Never question our motives, or suggest something unseemly.
Rule does not apply if president is a Democrat. (Again, see Clinton, Bill and Yugoslavia, or Clinton, Bill and al Qaeda.)
Otherwise, great list!
September 23, 2009 at 11:43 am
Not only was Bill Clinton a Democrat, he committed the unpardonable sin of opposing a war and participating in anti war demonstrations. There’s no redemption for him.
September 22, 2009 at 5:49 pm
We probably needn’t worry about the neocons anymore. Even conservatives hate them now. Nevertheless, some grave dancing is called for.
September 22, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Where the fuck is The Editors?
September 22, 2009 at 7:00 pm
September 22, 2009 at 8:51 pm
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September 23, 2009 at 7:33 am
I would think a few entheogens stuck into the punch there at the Newsmax Cruise would do the world a world of good.
Carpe diem and all that.
September 23, 2009 at 11:43 am
Oh, oh…
Irving Kristol died. How will Bill Kristol ever find another job? He better keep blowing whoever he’s blowing to keep the ones he’s got now at WaPo and DumbFUCKS News.
You know the old bromide about ‘the death of any man diminishes all men?’ Fuck it!!! Irving, you won’t be missed…
Hey Bill, what Circle of Hell do you think your Daddy’s in?
September 23, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Katznelson himself showed up at the original thread to tone down the story a little:
Like all games of telephone, this has some truth but has become exaggerated. Irving Kristol and I had breakfast at a conference we were attending. I asked him how his son got interested in politics, and was told that when William was 15, as I recall, Irving called Pat Moynihan to ask if he might give William an internship. We also talked about affirmative action, which he opposed on grounds of protecting meritocracy. So the core is correct, but not the embellishments about Penn and Harvard. I also don’t remember any discussion about the RNC.
Which makes it all the more believable that Irv completely missed the irony.
September 23, 2009 at 1:56 pm
13. Criticism of the Commander in Chief, even by those whom he doesn’t command, is tantamount to treason, except if said Chief is a Democrat.
14. Fainting is expected and encouraged if a Democrat says something mildly confrontational about a martial foreign policy while overseas. (Corollary: Dissent, especially while in Israel, is patriotic if foreign policy isn’t butch enough).
15. All soldiers are property of the Republican Party and paragons of American manly virtue, unless they write a piece for the New Republic or die after being disillusioned by the cause of killing.
15a. Soldiers are above reproach and should be celebrated, unless they die, then they should be buried anonymously because even saying their names on TV is considered poor taste.
16. Pointing out the facts that Saddam didn’t have WMDs and let in inspectors automatically deems you unserious.
17. War can never fail, it can only be waged poorly.
September 23, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Eh, I dunno. I’m in the mood for this:
September 25, 2009 at 3:26 pm
You know, that’s a pretty spectacular lip-synching job. It didn’t even occur to me it wasn’t live, until I remembered that Bowie has never sung a note in tune live.
September 23, 2009 at 3:55 pm
“Never criticize: any…retired general.”
In addition the exceptions cited above, please see “Taguba, MG Satan.”
September 23, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Bullshit, let’s have a fucking party:
September 23, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Jesus Christ.
September 23, 2009 at 7:35 pm
You said it man. Nobody fucks wit da Jesus.
September 23, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Dios mio.
It’s not just this. Something is seriously wrong with the water in Redmond, WA.
September 24, 2009 at 6:34 am
Tupperware STILL kicks Windows’ ass.
I mean, can you keep your weed fresh in a windows file? No.
On the other hand, nothing revives stale meatloaf like online porn as seen via Windows 7.
September 24, 2009 at 7:32 am
Holy Crap!
1. I thought this was a parody video – kept advancing thinking something wacky was going to happen, but no.
2. When DOES the parody video come out with people having meltdowns because they can’t get the shit to work and commit suicide with a telephone cord because the customer service desk can’t help them.
September 24, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Somebody got paid $200,000 a year plus benefits to come up with that, maybe even a team of people. That’s just wrong.
September 25, 2009 at 3:22 pm
It’s worse than wrong.
September 24, 2009 at 6:01 am
I think if Kristol-jawed Irving should be lauded for something, it’s the scale on which he inflicted his flaws on the rest of the world. He was a snob, a coward and a hypocrite, and we’ve all suffered because of it. He contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands. In the land of the wingnut, Irving was great. Here in the real world, his death should be celebrated.
September 24, 2009 at 7:04 am
Meritocracy becomes aristocracy as the first generation of meritocrats give their children their position in life
September 24, 2009 at 8:07 am
Another corollary: you are more of a patriot if you never served (TANG, 5 deferments) but support military action (but not proper equipment for the troops because they after all volunteered) than you are if you served heroically, won 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star and do not support every military action ever, particularly one in which it is clear the US is on verge of losing.
September 24, 2009 at 2:13 pm
9. Never criticize: Israel [...]
Remember, even echoing views held by almost the majority of Israelis could constitute criticizing Israel since most of us Jews are self-hating anyway. The only way to avoid criticizing Israel is to parrot whatever hardline members of Likud say.
Of course, it is perfectly acceptable to criticize Israel’s socialized health care system, relatively gay friendly society, etc.
September 24, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Damn! He’s dead! There goes my dream of kidnapping him and forcing him to have sex with Terri Gross.
Perhaps a medium channel their could channel their ectoplasm into some forcible consensual astral plane so they could obtain Triple Necrophilic Bonus Score.
September 30, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Wow, why the extreme hate for Terry Gross? What did she ever do to you, you vicious, vicious bastard?!!
October 4, 2009 at 5:17 am
Her interview with gene Simmons of KISS finished her for me. Never did like her anyway. Seriously overrated.
September 24, 2009 at 7:02 pm
curv3: a new welcome mat.
September 25, 2009 at 5:02 am
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September 25, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Hey, it just occurred to me that there’s only about 3 months left in this stinking decade. Better days ahead, bitches!
September 25, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I believe that, like the century, the decade ends on the 1 and not the 0.
September 25, 2009 at 2:51 pm
OMG I was totally thinking the same thing. That’s Nerdcore X Krunk.
September 25, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Oh, what the hell. We’ll celebrate it twice then.
September 25, 2009 at 11:00 pm
awesome
October 8, 2009 at 6:41 am
that 0 or 1 end argument is BS.
are you still in your 20s when you are 30 years old?
(answer: NO)
October 8, 2009 at 9:19 am
Did the first decade/century/millenia start on year zero or 1?
Are you alive when you’re 0?
NO!
October 9, 2009 at 3:38 pm
when it starts counting is irrelevent.
it is a label. ’20s’ means it starts
with a twenty.
October 16, 2009 at 9:23 am
But if you refer to the 20TH century, your clearly referencing some beginning. So, yeah, the 20′s start at 20 but the 20th whatever starts at 20+1.
September 25, 2009 at 3:20 pm
The end of that video probably seems a bit weird unless you know it’s from their 1997 “Farewell to the World” concert.
September 25, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I, for one, am just happy to be out of the damn 60′s.
September 25, 2009 at 11:50 pm
37: any negative reaction to US foreign hegemonic policy reflects on your association with/love of hippies, and the dirty fucking therewith.
September 26, 2009 at 6:07 am
“the dirty fucking therewith”
Normally, I cringe at the ‘cool band name’ riff, but in this case: cool band name!
Give it up, y’all, for ‘the dirty fucking therewith’!
September 26, 2009 at 3:38 pm
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September 26, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Fuck them all.
September 26, 2009 at 10:29 pm
It must be nice to be unemployed. The unlimited time in which to become bored, and find anything at all to gripe about. I mean, if you griped about being unemployed, the dream might end…
I imagine after prolonged periods of unemoployment one might find one’s self bored with the act of applying for unemployment (or restricted from such activities by law).
Coffee is cheap and so are wireless intar-net (of which everyone is aware of all traditions) connections…
Does the tipping point come when you must sell your laptop for a cup of coffee, or a bowl of soup?
I guess it all comes to your commitment to the ‘CAUSE,’ coffee is produced by the disenfranchised working masses, and keeps one lean. WHilst food (or soup, if you will) is made by bougeousie(sp?) capitalist greed hounds and makes one fat.
I suppose it is easy, sell the laptop for another cuppa joe(for the common, er catholic? man); rather than eat another mouthful and support capitalism…
Curvy, I apologize for this longwinded post; I just had to work it out in my mind first (or blog as it were, or your mind and your blog) before I asked that question:
How’s the job search going?
September 28, 2009 at 11:16 am
How’s the job search going?
Still employed in the same mind numbing, soul-draining, monotonous, well paying gig as I have been for the past decade-plus.
But otherwise, well said!
September 26, 2009 at 10:54 pm
“”"”As a corollary: the only reason any conflict is ever unwinnable is because of lack of political will (ie traitorous dissenters on the home front weaken our spirit).”"”"
Hold on, I thought Iraq was unwinable? So now Afghanistan? Every problem ‘inherited’ from a previous administration is something to run away from?
I seem to recall that Afghanistan was a ‘just’ war while Iraq was an ‘unjust’ one.
So now we change the rules (and have the governor appoint the replacement or whatever you two-faced political hacks want) for political convienience and trade Afgan/Iraq for Iran?
Sure, I’ll buy it.
Do you have any bridges you want to sell along with that?
September 26, 2009 at 10:55 pm
And another thing, I wish I could preside over such an agust(sp?) body of self congratualting people suck as this:
My favorite dem o-pines:
In his own words:
And in the other ring of the circus:
Also:
Surely, he is only peaceful (rewind yourself a few years) find some evidence (that might have crossed borders) of WMD’s before you commit to an illegal war:
I thought they were our friends and we could talk to them?
The third ring of this circus? Watch this if you can stomach it:
I couldn’t get too far into that one, His voice just turns my stomach…
September 26, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Moderate my ass
September 26, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Moderate to your hearts content, weakling. You still can’t talk about anything that matters.
Tear me apart. Erase my thoughts, why don’t you build a concentration kamp of the mind, Nazi ( I know I lose; Godwin’s )
What you going to get a sudden change of heart and talk about something that matters?
I await with eager anticipation(sp? etc) your response…
””He cain’t rite, heck, I thunk he cain bearly reed, what a jackass. Whiteness my inkredible smar— brai– erm, duh-lete previous comments…””
September 28, 2009 at 11:14 am
There there doofy, it’s gonna be alright (gently strokes a quivering doofy’s hair). Uncle curvy’s gonna make all the bad people go away.
September 27, 2009 at 12:59 am
Doofus, are you high?
If yes, can I have some, too?
September 27, 2009 at 6:38 am
Illy.
September 27, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Doofus is really Alan Smithee on acid.
September 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Alan Smithee on acid:
“Dude, I can so see trails from my Invisible Hand!”
(as he hits replay on his fave intar-web cumshot scene)
September 28, 2009 at 7:41 pm
This pretty much says it all, I think.
September 29, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I owe you for this discovery, peorgie. The bliss of ignorance lies in the many surprizes it allows.
September 29, 2009 at 7:19 am
September 29, 2009 at 8:37 am
September 29, 2009 at 9:11 am
Zappa Plays Zappa – Inca Roads
October 5, 2009 at 5:30 pm
The DVD is totally worth seeing. Available via Netflix.
September 29, 2009 at 9:39 am
Eds, if you’re out there (how many months has it been since a post?), consider re-naming this blog so we at least have good memories of the old PMI.
It’s kinda nice your providing a clubhouse for comments squatters, but the spray painted walls and broken bottles are looking downright squalid.
September 29, 2009 at 3:34 pm
And what do you have to offer to Theeds to make it worth his/their while?
September 29, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I think baby-sitting assistance might avail.
September 29, 2009 at 9:54 am
Better Bruford:
September 29, 2009 at 10:11 am
Awesome pants Annette.
What it is is what it is indeed.
September 29, 2009 at 11:26 am
She got those from my eight grade history teacher.
September 30, 2009 at 9:05 am
Sheeeyit far: She IS my eighth grade English teacher.
In the same sense as ‘is’ is what it is.
September 29, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Progressive Rap: run chillun, flee! The drummer’s backbeat will show you the path of escape!
October 2, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Annette, if you’re out there, please marry me.
September 29, 2009 at 11:41 am
I’m seriously regretting signing up for email notifications on this thread.
Or I love it. Not sure, really.
September 29, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Any way to get notification when you do one of those polls at your joint?
September 29, 2009 at 3:22 pm
You mean at FMM? I dunno. Have to ask brad.
September 29, 2009 at 2:58 pm
episode 2:
September 29, 2009 at 4:48 pm
WE’RE DOIN’ IT LIVE!
September 29, 2009 at 3:42 pm
BTW, what are the bookie odds among us that America will soon find a way to exit Afghanistan?
September 29, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I will be the lives of as many brown people as you want that this will never happen.
September 29, 2009 at 3:59 pm
You’re ouching my optimism. I wanna believe in good things.
September 29, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Has any empire ever exited Afghanistan intact?
September 29, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Anyway, I *like* curv3ball, and in fact sometimes wonder if he isn’t one of the two-formerly-united-as-one Theeds.
September 29, 2009 at 6:14 pm
The above got posted in the wrong reply. For this spot, the right Kenmeerian reply is: I think Genghis Khan handled them pretty well. But then, Genghis handled EVERYONE pretty well.
While I think Obamadmin seriously worries about Talibani spillover into Afghanistan, I think it has as much or more been concerned with bearing fidelity to his campaign platform to ‘finish what we started’ which was, of course, a grand posse to capture some weird guy with a beard.
That prospect looking dimmer all the time, the other start we are supposed to finish is creating a stable democracy (again?!?) in yet another Asian desolation. That being impossible, democracy by nature not being an imposable form of governance, the remaining thing to do is leave some semblance of a string guy in charge and blame him when the atrocities mount.
I think they cherished some notion of putting in a strong leader who would elevate Afghanistan from a post-or-neo-Talibani level hellhole into a hellhole more like Egypt.
But I think they are concluding that this is not only as unwise as ever it was, but pert near impossible.
I DO think they are seriously looking for a way to get out of this.
September 29, 2009 at 6:21 pm
“Talibani spillover into Afghanistan”
Into Pakistan, I mean.
September 29, 2009 at 6:23 pm
“some semblance of a string guy in charge”
And I suppose we all know that “string” should be ‘strong’ but you know what they say, give a strongman enough rope and he’ll string ‘em all up.
Boys will be boys, and heads will roll…
September 29, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I prefer to remind people that boys will be girls and that it takes a tough chicken to make a tender man (who must keep fucking).
September 29, 2009 at 4:04 pm
One final post, dedicated to the dear, absent, grew-up-and-got-a-life Editors. Thank you, Editors.
Thank you.
September 29, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Hey, he’s just on maternity leave. You gotta believe, man!
October 6, 2009 at 8:15 pm
He’s tossing back coronas and watching the tube with very cute baby. It’s called quality time. So let’s clean up and get out the air freshener.
September 30, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Yeah, the poorman, what a site that was. And the Editors? Sheeyit, man, those Keyboard Kommando Komix were the baddest stuff on the internet EVAR! You could laff fer days, man, days.
You younguns just don’t know ….
September 30, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Maybe we should make s’mores while we’re waiting. Those are good.
October 2, 2009 at 6:41 am
Especially w/ lots of post-modern self-referential irony, like discovering that it is God who waits for Godot.
October 1, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Holy shit, I can’t believe this exists.
October 1, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I can’t believe THIS exists. I saw these guys, what a trip.
October 1, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Jesus.
October 2, 2009 at 7:38 pm
How about his domestic policy:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7043/is_16/ai_n28127660/?tag=content;col1
And when you’re finished with that:
October 3, 2009 at 7:21 am
Now I can’t get that out of my mind.
Knut Knut, du gefaellst mir richtig gut!
October 3, 2009 at 5:22 pm
This is clearly about the indoctrination of German children into ursine socialism.
October 4, 2009 at 8:15 am
Knut for NWO Premier in 2020!
October 5, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Well. Today’s White House announcement about Afghanistan strongly implies they intend to stay. I’m not sure if this blue Kool-Aid will stand any more artificial sweetener, but I will try…
October 5, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Second term will be better… if there is one.
October 5, 2009 at 5:40 pm
heh, and I thought I was fooling myself when I tried to convince myself he was liberal during the campaign.
October 7, 2009 at 8:55 am
Yeah. Occasionally I have a fit of irrational optimism.
October 5, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I, for one, am proud that we are now bombing brown people under a democratic banner as opposed to a republican one.
Also, told you so. (See above)
October 6, 2009 at 8:00 am
Win points for the win, but demerits for the “(See above.)”
Mmm… cherry-banana-strawberry aspartame!?
Which translates into ‘we shall see’. I haven’t researched in depth past week or two but my impression is that they’ve finally learned to back off on the drone missiles.
Wise choice: with My Lai we at least had grunts to blame. Lt. Calley knew what he was doing. Not so easy to fob it off on some guy viewing satellite images and aerial video.
The new, humane Afghanistan War: humans kill humans! Or, to quote peorgie’s new fave bad boy: WE’RE GOIN’ LIVE!
October 6, 2009 at 9:03 am
Hey, I just escaped academia. Some of their lingo still haunts me.
October 6, 2009 at 1:24 pm
heh. u sed macadamia.
October 6, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Alas (via Informed Comment):
“Meanwhile, Aljazeera English says that Pakistan is pushing back against American demands that Washington be allowed to hit Taliban targets in Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan, via drones firing rockets. The current drone strikes most target the no-man’s land of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, which are vaguely akin to US Indian reservations. But to allow a Western, Christian power to bomb a major Pakistani city and provincial capital is a different matter altogether.
“As it is, Pakistani public opinion is vehemently against US drone strikes on Pakistani soil.”
Barry ain’t gonna like it when the 0-Bomb-a jokes get rolling.
October 7, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Maybe curv3ball is pregnant?
October 7, 2009 at 1:12 pm
(taps mike to make sure it’s one): “Klaatu barada nikto… Klaatu barada nikto… Klaatu barada nikto…”