Credit where due, Jeffrey “Toilet Trained” Goldberg is right about this:
This seems like such an obvious point, but it is apparently not obvious to the many people who oppose the Cordoba Initiative’s planned mosque in lower Manhattan, so let me state it as clearly as possible: The Cordoba Initiative, which is headed by an imam named Feisal Abdul Rauf, is an enemy of al Qaeda, no less than Rudolph Giuliani and the Anti-Defamation League are enemies of al Qaeda. Bin Laden would sooner dispatch a truck bomb to destroy the Cordoba Initiative’s proposed community center than he would attack the ADL, for the simple reason that Osama’s most dire enemies are Muslims. This is quantitatively true, of course — al Qaeda and its ideological affiliates have murdered thousands of Muslims — but it is ideologically true as well: al Qaeda’s goal is the purification of Islam (that is to say, its extreme understanding of Islam) and apostates pose more of a threat to Bin Laden’s understanding of Islam than do infidels.
…[Rauf] represents what Bin Laden fears most: a Muslim who believes that it is possible to remain true to the values of Islam and, at the same time, to be a loyal citizen of a Western, non-Muslim country. Bin Laden wants a clash of civilizations; the opponents of the this mosque project are giving him what he wants.
Unfortunately, he followed that up with a bit about how we should go ahead and bomb Iran because of the ever-growing undifferentiated Islamofascist menace, now featuring A-Jad in the vanguard riding a nuclear stallion tossing out highly enriched Mike and Ikes to the militants lining the parade route, along with his sidekick, El Qaeda, which secretly loves him some Shiites, etc.
But, hey, you take what you can get from the frothing, rabid, warmonger set.
August 3, 2010 at 11:42 am
Is that Republican warmongers or Democratic warmongers?
August 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Is there a need to distinguish?
August 3, 2010 at 4:17 pm
One wonders, thee days.
August 3, 2010 at 8:41 pm
I have no idea what curvy is talking about…
I do know that I like this song:
It is a bit multi-cultural and therefore a bit out of the ordinary for me (read suspicious) you have to admit it has a beat and violins…
I’m still not sure what curvy is fighting for?
August 6, 2010 at 8:44 am
The important thing is that we fight fight fight. It matters not what for, doofie.
Round 2: FIGHT
August 5, 2010 at 11:16 am
which means that, the Mosque del Cordoba or whatever, or the Bosque del Apache for that matter, will only be regarded as ‘useful idiots’ for us, as sell-outs, as Apostates. And therefore useless for propaganda purposes.
August 5, 2010 at 2:21 pm
True, that Golderg’s take on the Cordoba Initiative is less simplistically bigoted than that of his fellow-travellers. But I would not subscribe to the idea that the right to use private property in lower Manhattan for religious purposes should turn on whether the religioon in question is detested by Al Quaeda or not. A Sunni mosque or community center would have just as much right to use its property for worship or other religiously oriented activities. Goldberg’s point highlights that the troglocytes do not understand anything about the varied strands of the religion that they detest, but doesn’t really provide a relevant reason to support the Initiative’s already existing right to use the building for religious purposes.
August 5, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Granted. Althought al-Qaeda would oppose many “Sunni” mosques as well. It’s a particular strand that they fight for. FWIW.
August 6, 2010 at 8:46 am
He also writes the magazines advice column….